Hi Michael, Thanks for this initiative!
I like the idea of hosting this new project in the Django organization. I think there’s a lot of value in having a good SQL Server backend for Django, implemented according to Microsoft’s recommendations, and little reason to encourage competition in this space — there aren’t that many ways to implement such a library. However I’m wary of deciding that a non-existent-yet library is the endorsed solution for using SQL Server from Django. It may be best to wait until it has reached feature parity with django-mssql and received some amount of real-world testing to move it there. Best regards, -- Aymeric. > On 23 May 2016, at 20:57, Michael Manfre <mman...@gmail.com> wrote: > > There are two parts to this email. First relates to the current state of > django-mssql. A version of the backend that supports Django 1.8 will be > released in the next few weeks. I apologize for the delay, but my ability to > focus on the project was basically non-existent for nearly a year due to > personal reasons. The backend is currently failing some of Django's test > suite and will likely be released before all of the issues are resolved. The > biggest unresolved issues right now relate to certain schema migrations and > some failing tests related to prefetch related that I haven't had time to > investigate yet. I plan on releasing with a list of known bugs, so if you use > this backend, please test the latest commits against your project and let me > know if you run in to any issues. Post your found errors on the django-mssql > issue tracker [1]. I will not release if there are any data corruption or > other blocking level bugs. I'm planning this to be the last major release > using adodbapi and the underlying ADO drivers. > > [1] https://bitbucket.org/Manfre/django-mssql > <https://bitbucket.org/Manfre/django-mssql> > > Moving forward, django-mssql will be rewritten from scratch to use the > Microsoft developed ODBC drivers. These drivers are officially supported by > Microsoft and will be cross platform; Windows and Linux support exists and > OSX support is currently being worked on. Despite using ODBC drivers, this > backend will specifically target MSSQL to take advantage of any features or > performance improvements that are possible, and to reduce the support > overhead of working against any random database that provides an ODBC > interface. Microsoft has stated their willingness to contribute engineering > resources towards this backend. > > I'd like this soon to be created repo to live under Django's github account > and to start the conversation about if this is desirable and what that means > for the backend and Django. > > Why start from scratch? Sometimes the slate needs to be wiped clean to remove > mistakes of the past. Django-mssql has accumulated a lot of crufty code over > the years for various reasons. The existing ODBC backends are in various > states of support with slightly differing goals; generic ODBC, Azure > specific, etc. To me the most important reason is, I want to start from > scratch to help document what is involved with creating a database backend. > > One concern that has been previously raised relates to handling regressions. > It is my expectation that individual commits to Django would be allowed to > break the backend's tests, but that they will be resolved before release. > > If you have questions related to MSSQL or what are the expectations for > having an officially support Django database backend, please share them. > > Regards, > Michael Manfre > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Django developers (Contributions to Django itself)" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to django-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:django-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To post to this group, send email to django-developers@googlegroups.com > <mailto:django-developers@googlegroups.com>. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/django-developers > <https://groups.google.com/group/django-developers>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/CAGdCwBsj6SGFqwKR7NFUMb0taExD8LGRcJtU7PPqNvcv5GvPtQ%40mail.gmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/CAGdCwBsj6SGFqwKR7NFUMb0taExD8LGRcJtU7PPqNvcv5GvPtQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout > <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers (Contributions to Django itself)" group. 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