Hello,

I think this falls in the realm of duck typing. In Python, the programmer is 
allowed to use one data type instead of another — str instead of 
decimal.Decimal in this example — as long as they’re “sufficiently compatible” 
(where “sufficiently” depends on chance and taste, among others).

It’s definitely a gotcha that should be documented. But the general fix for 
this issue would be to check types on assignment to model fields. Even if 
Django did an `is instance` check, you could still have problems with 
subclasses, especially with custom fields.

On a personal note, I encountered an interesting variant of this recently. I 
have a model with a JSONField. Some values in the JSONField are dates. After 
saving to the database and reloading, they come back as ISO-formatted strings.

When I create instances of this mode, I leave the values as dates (because that 
works) and I call refresh_from_db() right after create()/save() to make sure my 
code always gets consistent type.

Would `full_clean` or `to_python` handle that? I’d be impressed if they did. 
And if Django’s JSONField doesn’t do it correctly, it’s preposterous to assume 
that existing custom fields do. I’m not in favour of making a promise that will 
inevitably be broken by many existing custom fields.

Best regards,

-- 
Aymeric.



> On 13 Feb 2017, at 15:57, Tim Graham <timogra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Once in a while, there's a ticket about this behavior:
> 
> m = Model(decimal='12.9')
> m.save()
> self.assertEqual(m.decimal, '12.9')
> m.refresh_from_db()
> self.assertEqual(m.decimal, Decimal('12.9'))
> 
> That is, you can create a model with an incorrect type and it won't be fixed 
> until you refresh the object from the database.
> 
> Most recent complaint, "it is only a basic expectation that the DB layer and 
> the Application layer will correspond to each-other after performing save, 
> which is in other words, syncing your state with the DB. Personally, this bug 
> (one way binding between application and db on save) broke many of my tests 
> and took a lot of my time." [0] See [1] for another manifestation of this.
> 
> I think calling to_python() in Model.save() would have unacceptable 
> performance consequences for little benefit considering that it's a 
> reasonable expectation for developers to provide the correct type. Further, 
> you can use full_clean() to coerce to the correct types:
> 
> m = Model(decimal='12.9')
> m.full_clean()
> self.assertEqual(m.decimal, Decimal('12.9'))
> 
> What do you think? Absent a better suggestion, we could document this pitfall 
> so that there's something to point to when related tickets come in.
> 
> [0] https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/27825
> [1] https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/24028
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