> -----Original Message-----
> From: Murray S. Kucherawy [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 3:32 PM
> To: MH Michael Hammer (5304); McDowell, Brett
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [dkim-ops] BCP for authorizing third-parties ([...] was
> subdomain vs. cousin domain)
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: MH Michael Hammer (5304) [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 12:27 PM
> > To: Murray S. Kucherawy; McDowell, Brett
> > Cc: [email protected]
> > Subject: RE: [dkim-ops] BCP for authorizing third-parties ([...] was
> > subdomain vs. cousin domain)
> >
> > Actually not quite true Murray.
> >
> > If I am signing for americangreetings.com and I delegate
> > email.americangreetings.com to ExactTarget (a real example) and they
> > are
> > generating their own keys for email. and signing, that is a first
party
> > signature as far as the verifier is concerned (not 3rd party).
> >
> > It also doesn't integrate email. into the base domain of
> > americangreetings.com from a verifier perspective.
> 
> But I, as a verifier, can't tell that email.americangreetings.com is
> actually a third party.  It's just another domain to me.
> 

There is in fact a significant difference between handing your private
key to a 3rd party and delegating a subdomain. While to you as a
verifier, it may be just another domain, to myself as a sender and
signer it is a significant difference in terms of management and
control.

> Things like TPA or DSAP attempt to make the delegation of authority
> visible, but the ones that use DNS mechanisms like CNAME and NS don't
do
> so.

You are correct. I forget that many in the mail community do not know
how to use tools such as dig.

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