no. iirc the helo identity is checked IFF there is no MAIL FROM identity.

On Mar 25, 2013, at 6:17 PM, "Carl S. Gutekunst" <[email protected]> 
wrote:

> 
>>> Question 3: the absence of a SPF resource record in DNS for a domain, would 
>>> it mean SPF-mechanism-authentication fail in DMARC for all email sent from 
>>> that domain?
>> 
>> 3. Yes...if your envelope-from domain has no SPF record, that is considered 
>> an SPF-fail for DMARC purposes.
> 
> But if the HELO Identity has a valid SPF record...? Isn't that supposed to be 
> checked before the MAIL FROM Identity?
> 
> I'm trying to push for clarity on this one issue because it doesn't seem to 
> be implemented consistently, and with DMARC it's starting to really matter.
> 
> <csg>
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