On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 8:34 PM [GMT+1=CET], Tim Draegen wrote:
> You guys are accumulating a bit of history of not really talking
> about DMARC, but instead asserting random things that aren't true,
> and then disappearing when asked to do some homework.  

Is it true that if you reject incoming email which fails DMARC validation and 
whose sender's policy is REJECT, then you are in for a world of hurt? Yes, it 
is true. Therefore, DMARC'S p=reject is not something you can trust, nor 
follow. Period. There is no clothing that puppet that is going to change this 
truth about DMARC

You can feed a DMARC result of fail plus p=reject as score input into some 
system to apply some locally crafted algorithms to determine the probability of 
spamminess/phising, but then your are still not following the stated POLICY of 
REJECT in the sender's DMARC. That is a truth. About DMARC.

You can point to links which say "all is relative", "take it with a grain of 
salt", etc. That's fine. That, however, does not change the truth that you 
cannot trust nor follow DMARC's POLICY of REJECT. You, at most, can take it 
into account as a score/weight to do further local processing - OK, but you are 
then not REJECTing as per the sender's DMARC policy. Undeniable truth, that.

It is the DMARC specification that chose to call it "policy", not 
"recommendation". And  policy is a policy, not a suggestion. Twisting words to 
fit ex-post facto scenarios/realities is not funny.

Perhaps you can spend your whole working day, day after day, fine tuning your 
local DMARC processing secret-sauce. Good for you. Other people do not have 
that luxury.

Regards,
J.Gomez


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