On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 1:04 AM, Roland Turner <[email protected]> wrote:
> I am going to assume that Yahoo!'s email people haven't lost their minds and > - despite the failure to give a heads up - actually did carefully assess the > impact of the change before making it and that, therefore, they're not > likely to undo this change. Note in particular that the rua/ruf mechanisms > originated with Yahoo!, it seems rather unlikely that they neglected to > consult them. If my assumption is correct, then the sensible behaviour for > list operators would now appear to be to let go of the reflexive "not our > problem" response and embrace a "here is how we can make it work" stance > because, clearly, it now is a list operator's problem. This is wise and everybody should read it twice. I think that most mailing list managers are reasonable people and as they move through the five stages of grief, they'll get beyond the "this is wrong and I hate it" and will probably eventually move on to "well, this is still wrong, but it makes sense to deal with it." Even the generally reasonable Mr. Levine has gone from "we're not going to change mailing list managers to deal with DMARC" back on February 27th to "I've now added custom code to my signing script" within 48 hours after Yahoo's new policy started taking effect. He didn't update it the way I would have done it, but his server, his rules. Quoting Roland one more time, because I strongly agree: "I'd suggest that -- however much we feel that Yahoo!'s action is unwise and/or inappropriate -- this represents a material change to the "facts on the ground" and may therefore shift list operators' interests." I personally think that if your response to Yahoo's policy change is "this is crap, I'm not doing anything to work with this" or "I'm going to kick all Yahoo user off of my lists and if they want back in, they can go find a new email address" then you're going to get left behind as more and more providers of mailing lists, both hobbyists and commercial entities, will Just Deal With it. Here's another great example of a commercial discussion list provider responded quickly to implement product changes that allow Yahoo users to continue to participate in the lists they host: http://onlinegroups.net/blog/2014/04/10/yahoo-dmarc-better-mailing-list-manager/ I bet we'll see lots more of this in the near future. Cheers, Al Iverson -- Al Iverson | Chicago, IL | (312) 725-0130 Twitter: @aliverson / www.spamresource.com _______________________________________________ dmarc-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://www.dmarc.org/mailman/listinfo/dmarc-discuss NOTE: Participating in this list means you agree to the DMARC Note Well terms (http://www.dmarc.org/note_well.html)
