On 4/7/2014 11:46 AM, Barney Wolff wrote:
On the other hand, neither the DMARC spec nor implementations contemplate
coping with mailing lists, which makes it all but impossible for DMARC
ever to be used in practice to reject messages.


There is a large class of messages that naturally produce properly "aligned" and authenticated messages in the recipient's mailbox.

(Just to be diligent: aligned mean the rfc5322.From field domain name matches the domain name in either or both of the message's rfc5321.MailFrom command -- for SPF validation -- or the DKIM d= value; authenticated means that DKIM validates and/or SPF passes.)

Such messages are created and sent by an entity having control over the domain's DNS records and the mail follows a simple transmission path. Bulk marketing mail (legitimate or not) and transactional mail are common examples.

For such scenarios, DMARC works well.

The problem is for more complicated scenarios it does not. Those more complicated scenarios are legitimate and always have been. Mailing lists are obviously a good example. Imposing DMARC into those scenarios breaks DMARC.

A simple question is whether the benefit of DMARC is sufficient -- and sufficiently clear -- to warrant such a dramatic reduction in the flexibility of email use?

Note that DMARC restrictions apply to information that is typically not visible to end users -- most modern MUAs do not display the From: field address. Also lack of alignment between the From: field domain name and either authentication field is not inherently an indication of bad actor behavior. In other words, any current problem with alignment is -- at best -- merely a current correlation, with many work-arounds for bad actors to explore.


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Dave Crocker
Brandenburg InternetWorking
bbiw.net
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