Larry Finch wrote:

On Apr 25, 2014, at 11:04 PM, Miles Fidelman <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Larry Finch wrote:
I have some insight into what is happening here. L-Soft just updated listserv v 16 to do exactly what you describe (I belong to L-Soft’s site manager and list owner groups). The patch causes listserv to check for a DMARC DNS record, and if one exists with p=reject it rewrites the FROM field in the header with what you describe. If the originating IP does not have a DMARC record or has one and does not have p=reject listserv ignores it. So either Google uses listserv or they read the listserv lists also and copied it.

Either way, it is a very ugly workaround.


Why ugly? It strikes me as minimally intrusive (and one of the options for the current Sympa patch).

Miles Fidelman

It is ugly because it means that different messages with have different headers, depending on where the message originated. And it also forces email from Yahoo and AOL to have a Reply To that will always go back to the original sender rather than the list. Many lists want replies to go to the list, not the original sender.

It is also ugly because it changes the way received messages appear from what everyone has been expecting for the last 20 years.


Ok... but no uglier than any of the other workarounds that we're being forced into by p=reject - which is where the real ugliness lies.

Miles




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