On Thursday, June 05, 2014 9:35 AM [GMT+1=CET], Vlatko Salaj wrote:

> it seems to me that many of DMARC defenders don't understand
> main points of proposed 3rd party solutions, confusing them
> for ML solutions, and thus dismissing them altogether.
(...)
> 
> ps. to state an example, if anybody doesn't get it.
> i have trust in ymail to send email on behalf of my domain,
> and i want a way to state that in my DMARC policy.

Thanks for the example, makes it so much clearer.

For that use case, you should do an SPF-include of Yahoo's SPF inside your own 
SPF record. Yes, provided Yahoo had any SPF at all (which they did not until 
very recently), and also provided the included-SPF already involved less that 
10 DNS-queries.

If those conditions were false, I would take it as an implied declaration from 
ymail that your use case is not welcome with them, so why force the issue with 
them?

Regards,
J.Gomez

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