On 5/20/2020 2:43 PM, Alessandro Vesely wrote:

Transaction?  I thought we were talking about aggregate reports.

So am I.

There are no transactions there.

Really?

Each SMTP session can be considered a transaction. You are provided
results on the these DMARC processed transaction.

I mean, what is the CSV format of the following report, that I sent yesterday
for this list:

Sorry, if I ignored it.

Forgetting fact that you can your report easier to read for consumers, these would be an example of the CSV field headers.

CSV headers:

report_metadata.org_name, report_metadata.email, report_metadata.report_id, report_metadata.date_range.begin, report_metadata.date_range.end

Policy_Published.domain, Policy_Published.adkim, Policy_Published.aspf, Policy_Published.p

record.row, record.row.source_ip.record.count. record.row.policy_evaluated, record.row.policy_evaluated.disposition, record.row,policy_evaluated.disposition, record.row.policy_evaluated.dkim, record.row.policy_evaluated.spf

Note: You don't have to stick to redundant "name space" field names.

...  Can we get back to work, please?

Sorry, but I consider a rude, disrespectful and ignorant statement, to be
saying that.


No personal attack intended.  I'm being rude because I have the impression that
you are not defending a concrete, well defined need, but instead find new
arguments opportunistically to pursue a vague sense of format fashion.

That's a personal attack. If you don't understand the proposal, you should back off or ask for clarification.

You
shifted from an asserted necessity of producers to a possible desire of
consumers.

I did no such thing. I won't repeat it, but it appears you didn't understand the proposal.

Now you introduce formats like CSV which make no sense in DMARC
context.

I disagree. See above.

I hold that CSV cannot satisfy DMARC requirements.

Hold it all you want. You know it would not be true. See above.

? Please do contradict me by
showing us how an aggregate report in CSV would look like, as well as some
ideas for defining the corresponding template, similar to what Appendix C of
RFC 7489 specifies for XML.

Ok, I won't but if you don't understand the proposal, you should ask for clarification.

CSV can work, so can JSON. Limiting it and locking it down to XML only would be a limitation. You can agree or not agree with that.

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HLS


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