> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Crocker <[email protected]>
> Sent: 24 June 2020 14:48
> To: David I <[email protected]>; IETF DMARC WG <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] What if... Sender:
>
> On 6/24/2020 2:56 AM, David I wrote:
> > Specifically, alignment on 'From' allows automated checks against
> > addresses of known, trusted contacts from addressbooks
>
> So does alignment on Sender.  Yes, the addresses in From: vs. Sender:
> might be different, but that doesn't mean the same assessment mechanisms
> that can be used on a From: address can't also be used on a Sender: address.
>

Without forcing alignment to 'From', an attacker can set their own 'Sender', 
set a 'From' they're not entitled to use that's of a trusted contact, and the 
DMARC associated with the abused domain in the 'From' has no effect and can't 
be used for filtering. So while you could so a similar filter on Sender, it 
wouldn't be as useful, and would provide less security benefit.

>
> > If the authentication is of a value which isn't related to the entry in the
> addressbook, I don't see how this kind of checking/filtering can be done, and
> so wouldn't be as useful. Unless there's a way I've missed?
>
> I suspect that very little -- if any -- of the current use of DMARC relies on 
> an
> end-user's address book.

It's definitely the case that there are popular email services doing 
filtering/alerting based on addressbooks/known contacts, and I'm confident that 
DMARC's ability to force use of cousin/alternative domains makes this more 
effective.

David
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