> On 3 Dec 2020, at 06:03, Jim Fenton <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> On 2 Dec 2020, at 1:47, Laura Atkins wrote:
> 
>> p=quarantine is quite useful, particularly for those folks who are trying to 
>> get to a p=reject state.
>> 
>> In practice, senders who publish p=none don’t find all of the indirect mail 
>> flows as some mailing lists do nothing to transform the 5322.from address 
>> for a p=none policy. Senders have found that when they switch from p=none to 
>> p=quarantine pct=0 they regularly find mail that was not failing for a 
>> p=none.
> 
> I’m really confused by this. It sounds like the 5322.from address rewriting 
> is creating additional errors that didn’t exist beforehand, and that’s the 
> opposite of the intended purpose. Isn’t the purpose of rewriting the 
> 5322.from address to change the domain to that of the mediator, which should 
> redirect reporting to the mediator rather than the original sender?

What I am trying to say is that as I understand it from the folks who 
professionally deploy DMARC, they regularly use p=quarantine pct=0 as part of 
the deployment process. There are DMARC failures that go undetected in a p=none 
situation but that is detected in a p=quarantine  pct=0 situation.  My 
understanding was this was related to indirect flows through mailing lists and 
how mailing lists are handling the header transformation but it’s possible I 
got that piece incorrect. 

p=quarantine is valuable for other reasons as well, and I think it should be 
kept. 

laura 

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