On 2/1/21 6:05 PM, Dave Crocker wrote:
On 2/1/2021 5:58 PM, Michael Thomas wrote:
This, on the other hand, should be measurable. Saying that we should ignore authentication requirements should require extraordinary proof that it is needed for practical as well as security reasons. The burden of proof is on the nay-sayers, especially since it is so trivial to implement these days.

Or perhaps:

    1. Barrier to adoption, for something that supposedly needs a lot
    more adoption

    2. Doesn't seem to make much difference.

I'd class those as suggesting rather strongly that the burden is on those that want to impose the barrier, rather than those who don't.

The problem with arbitrarily claiming a requirement, without justify it carefully and in a balanced matter is that it is, well, arbitrary.


Because we all know how well unauthenticated data worked out for email. I fail to see why anybody would be in favor of digesting unauthenticated data when the method of authenticating it is trivial and well known. It's an extraordinary claim that needs to be backed up. But you don't need to convince me; you need to convince the security AD's and cross area reviewers.

Mike

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