> On 21 Jul 2021, at 18:24, Dave Crocker <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> On 7/21/2021 1:28 AM, Laura Atkins wrote:
>> This is going to cause difficulties in deployment for a lot of companies and 
>> domains. Experience tells us that p=quarantine pct=0 detects forwarders and 
>> other types systems that modify and break DMARC authentication. These 
>> systems are undetectable when p=none is in place. 
> 
> How is this 'detection' actually used?  That is, what is then done 
> differently?

Please review the list archives for previous discussion of why p=0 is 
important. 

The part of the message you clipped indicates I was specifically commenting on 
removing pct=0, which group consensus from May 27 says we keep. If it’s 
possible to remove 1 - 99 that gets a +1 from me.

> On 7/21/2021 10:19 AM, John Levine wrote:
>> I suppose we could leave pct=0 as a hint to forwarders to turn on their 
>> DMARC evasion hacks.
> 
> Why doesn't seeing DMARC as seeing that it isn't p=none outght to suffice for 
> that?

There was a long discussion on this list at the end of 2020 describing why 
pct=0 is an important step in deployment. 

laura 

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