On Fri 23/Jul/2021 14:23:01 +0200 Benny Pedersen wrote:
On 2021-07-23 12:08, Alessandro Vesely wrote:

https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dmarc/KvSFv66Mz8UipXQ0477UgO5WKio/

all this is solved if maillists stop dkim signing of non origination postings and only do the arc sealing so all dmarc testers can see originating spf, dkim pass


ARC doesn't exclude DKIM. Actually, the latter has a larger use base and it would be an error to stop supporting it.


take sendgrid, thay forwarded netflix phishing emails, and thay belived dmarc protected there ignorance to some kind out off there services

never trust a forwarding server that does there own dkim signing, period


We always knew that verified authenticity wouldn't imply trust, irrespective of forwarding.


dmarc needs openARC testing to all above to work, then maillist can break maillists to there own stupid needs without breaking dkim cant be verified on dmarc recipient servers


ARC is not a part of DMARC, despite the acronym being a substring.


Best
Ale
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