> On Jul 19, 2023, at 3:21 PM, Douglas Foster 
> <dougfoster.emailstanda...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Perhaps you can clarify what you think DMARC is.
> 
> Apparently a significant number of evaluators think that "DMARC Fail with 
> p=reject always means unwanted mail".   Or to use Michael Hammer's language, 
> "DMARC Fail with p=reject means the domain owner wants it rejected so I will 
> reject it."    These are exactly the attitudes that cause us so much trouble 
> because (a) DMARC Fail with p=reject does not mean that rejection is always 
> the correct response, and (b) DMARC Fail with p=none is an important piece of 
> information.   

Doug, if what you’re saying is true then the root cause might be our fault. If 
we’ve not communicated clearly enough DMARC’s purpose. A communication problem 
likely needs to be solved with more and better communication via the standards 
doc itself and other channels.

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