On October 25, 2023 3:38:01 AM UTC, "Murray S. Kucherawy" <[email protected]> wrote: >On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 11:15 AM Barry Leiba <[email protected]> >wrote: > >> Now that we have a consensus call on the main issue that has remained open: >> >> 1. Do we need to retain our session at IETF 118 and discuss this (or >> something else) further? >> >> ...or... >> >> 2. Do we have what we need to finish up the DMARCbis document, and >> should the chairs cancel the session at 118? >> > >A few questions, but they don't demand in-person time if we want to just >deal with them on the list: > >* Is there consensus on moving ahead with the idea of a way to indicate >which authentication method(s) the Domain Owner wants Receivers to use? If >so, it doesn't seem to be in the document yet.
I haven't seen any valid case for it yet. It adds complexity to little or no benefit. Although sometimes it seems like complexity for complexities' sake is the IETF's stoke and trade, I believe we ought to try and avoid adding any more than we have to in order to meet our chartered mandate. >* Given some of the stuff we're hearing in the wings about the utility of >ARC, do we want to talk about it in -bis at all? The original plan (I >thought) was that if it turned out to be high signal, we could add it as a >third supported method. I'm hearing positive value from a couple of >operators, but nothing of the form "Yes, this solves the DMARC problem with >lists." ARC solves nothing on its own. ARC plus a list of senders I trust not to lie to me is quite useful. I don't think it can be raised to a more formal part of DMARC since its utility if entirely dependent on non-standardized (and almost certainly non-standardizable) special sauce. >* Any open issues in the tracker that would benefit from face time? > >I'm happy to repeat my 117 rant at 118. I don't think much has changed >since then, which makes some of those points more urgent... ;-) > >-MSK, participating I don't think a meeting would help with either of those. Scott K _______________________________________________ dmarc mailing list [email protected] https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dmarc
