Murray S. Kucherawy writes:
> On Sun, Oct 29, 2023 at 12:35 PM Douglas Foster <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> 
>     By contrast, the new tag cannot be effective until DMARCbis is published
>     and filtering software updated.  This involves years.  Even then, domain
>     owners will never have confidence that the new token support has been
>     implemented by all recipient evaluators.
> 
> At least on its face, this is a big concern.  A domain owner publishing "auth=
> dkim" is going to get varying results as some sites update to software
> supporting such a tag while others ignore it.  I don't know if the potential
> for some benefit is a desirable trade for the potential for some confusion.

Varying meaning, those who implement auth=dkim will get extra
protection, and those who do not, are left as they are now.

I myself think that adding clear indication that sender always uses
dkim, and evaluators can rely on that makes the DMARC better, and more
secure.

And as every DMARC evaluator needs to support DKIM anyways (there is
no such thing as SPF only DMARC evaluator, both SPF and DKIM are
mandatory to implement), there is no real difference in complexity for
evaluators.

>     Seems like a slam dunk for SPF neutral.  I said the problem and it's
>     solution needs to be laid out in our document because I am one of those
>     who did not understand it as a possible strategy
> 
> I think I agree.

This will also change the behavior of the receivers. For example
spamassasin does give more points to SPF_NEUTRAL (around 0.6-0.7) than
SPF_PASS (-0.001) etc. I would assume other similar software also use
SPF results similarly.

The reason why SPF_PASS gives only -0.001 is that it is assumed that
spammers will use their own domain and thus can get SPF records to
match (DMARC, DKIM and SPF are never meant to work against spammers).
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