On Jun 6, 2014, at 6:52 PM, Alper Yegin wrote:

> Hi John,
> 
> My reading of that sentence is different.
> 
> To me it says "We cannot assume that the solutions we are developing would be 
> available on all networks across the Internet".

The highlighted text intend to say:
 unless the mobile node is made explicitly aware (by the network)
 of the fact that the prefix/address it got will guarantee IP session
 continuity, the mobile node cannot assume it to remain unchanged
 infinitely when doing handovers and such.. the prefix/address may
 remain unchanged e.g. within a limited are e.g. as long as the
 mobile node remains within one administrated network domain.

- JOuni





> 
> While I'd agree with that statement, I don't know what it really means for 
> our solution design.
> Some of our solutions may not be present in a network, hence the MN cannot 
> use them. OK…. and??
> 
> In my reading, it does not say the following: "Network cannot always provide 
> IP session continuity, hence we need to define solutions that can deal with 
> this". (e.g., using MPTCP, or restarting flows, or some other magic, etc.).
> I don't think the intent of that sentence is this. And therefore, I don't 
> think that sentence is related to "anchor re-selection".
> 
> Alper
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 6, 2014, at 5:56 PM, John Kaippallimalil wrote:
> 
>> Hi Alper, All:
>>  
>> Towards the end of the charter, there is a paragraph that states:
>>      "Although the maintenance of stable home address(es) and/or prefix(es)
>>       and upper level sessions is a desirable goal when mobile hosts/routers
>>       change their point of attachment to the Internet, it is not a strict
>>       requirement. Mobile hosts/routers should not assume that IP
>>       addressing including home address(es) and/or home network prefix(es)
>>       remain the same throughout the entire upper level session lifetime,
>>       or that support for mobility functions is provided on the network side
>>       in all conditions, unless these properties are specifically indicated
>>       to the mobile node and its applications from the network."
>>  
>>  
>> I suppose this clarifies that the “anchor re-selection” can apply to a 
>> single session also?
>> 
>> BR,
>> John
>>  
>>  
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: dmm [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Alper Yegin
>> > Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 9:38 AM
>> > To: Jouni Korhonen
>> > Cc: [email protected]
>> > Subject: Re: [DMM] draft charter text updates in github..
>> >
>> > Hello Jouni, DMM folks,
>> >
>> > We better clarify what "anchor re-selection" stands for.
>> > If it is about selecting different anchors for different IP flows, that's 
>> > one
>> > thing.
>> > If it is about changing the IP anchor in the middle of an IP flow, that's
>> > another thing. And that other thing needs to be scoped out. A basic
>> > understanding of a use case would be appreciated (just an explanation for
>> > discussion, I'm not asking for another I-D!), and identification of various
>> > aspects of that scenario which translate to work items for DMM WG.
>> >
>> > I won't be in the call today. So, consider this for a discussion. Follow 
>> > up on
>> > the mailing list afterwards would be good.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> > Alper
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Jun 6, 2014, at 2:47 PM, Jouni Korhonen wrote:
>> >
>> > > Folks,
>> > >
>> > > Minor changes..
>> > >
>> > > https://github.com/jounikor/dmm-re-charter/blob/master/recharter_draft.txt
>> > >
>> > > IMHO..the charter as it is today, would allow pretty much any solution 
>> > > from
>> > legacy anchoring to herd of pigeons carrying IP.. ;-)
>> > >
>> > > I have put in editorial changes of my own and clear text proposals 
>> > > received
>> > from others.
>> > >
>> > > - Jouni
>> > >
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