在 2015年3月25日 星期三,下午4:43,Alper Yegin 写道:

> Hello Dapeng,
>  
>  
> On Mar 25, 2015, at 11:01 PM, Dapeng Liu wrote:
> > Hello Alper,  
> >  
> > I still have the following comments:
> >  
> > 1. Regarding the definition of “fixed IP address” in the draft:
> >  
> >   “- Fixed IP Address
> > This is what standard Mobile IP provides with a Home Address (HoA). The 
> > mobile host is configures a HoA from a centrally-located Home Network. Both 
> > IP session continuity and IP address reachability are provided to the 
> > mobile host with the help of a router in the Home Network (Home Agent, HA). 
> > This router acts as an anchor for the IP  
> > address of the mobile host.”  
> >  
> > If this is equal to HoA, then RFC5014 already cover that. We do not need to 
> > repeat it here with another name.
> >  
>  
>  
> This is not equal to "HoA".
> This is equal to "HoA permanently allocated on a HA in the core network"
> (as opposed to "HoA temporarily allocated on a HA in the access network")
>  
The draft says: “This is what standard Mobile IP provides with a Home Address 
(HoA)...”  If it is not equal to HoA, need clarification in the draft.
>  
>  
> > 2. Regarding the definition of “sustained IP address” in the draft:
> >  
> > "- Sustained IP Address This type of IP address provides IP session 
> > continuity but not IP address reachability. It is achieved by ensuring that 
> > the IP address used at the beginning of the session remains usable despite 
> > the movement of the mobile host. The IP address may change after the 
> > termination of the IP session(s), therefore it does not exhibit 
> > persistence. "  
> > There is no clear dividing line between fixed IP address and sustained IP 
> > address. Whether the IP address is used for reachability is not determined 
> > by the IP address itself. For example, even when the MN get a HoA, after it 
> > moves to another location of the network, it may decide to release current 
> > HoA and get another HoA, in this case the "fixed IP address" becomes a 
> > "sustained IP address".
> >  
>  
> If the IP stack on the host releases the IP address, then of course it's not 
> a "fixed IP address".  
> Please see the definitions of these terms in the I-D.
>  
>  
> > Further more, the reachability normally is implemented by domain name 
> > instead of IP address. For example, we reach “Google” by its domain name, 
> > never by it’s server’s IP address.  
> >  
> > Using temporary private IP address we can also achieve the goal of 
> > “reachability”. For example, using dynamic DNS, as shown in  
> > http://hsk.oray.com/ , it can  provide reachability even the host get a 
> > private IP address.
> >  
>  
> You had said this before, and I had explained it.
> Nevertheless, let me recap:
> You cannot ensure an ongoing IP flow continues w/o interruption if you simply 
> rely on dynamic DNS. Ongoing flows break even if you update the DNS.
> Furthermore, even if you ignore the ongoing flows, also note that DNS clients 
> have a cache, hence a dynamic DNS update cannot be instantaneously reflected 
> on the hosts.  
> So, you cannot provide full mobility solution by relying on dynamic DNS.
>  
>  
The point here is “reachability” instead of “mobility”.  
Further more, even mobile IP may lost some packet during handover.  
> > 3. Regarding the definition of “nomadic IP address”:
> >  
> > “- Nomadic IP Address
> > This type of IP address provides neither IP session continuity nor IP 
> > address reachability. The IP address is obtained from the serving IP 
> > gateway and it is not maintained across gateway changes. In other words, 
> > the IP address may be released and replaced by a new IP address when the IP 
> > gateway changes due to the movement of the mobile  
> > host.”
> >  
> > Seems this IP address is the IP address that we normally used in most 
> > cases. If this is the case, why we need a new name for it?
> >  
>  
>  
> If you don't name it, how would you refer to it in this context?
If the justification of naming IP address as “fixed IP” and “ sustained IP” is 
not valid, then we may not necessary need a new name for normal IP address.


Dapeng  
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>  
> Alper
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> >  
> > --  
> > Dapeng Liu
> >  
> >  
> > 在 2015年3月25日 星期三,下午2:02,Alper Yegin 写道:
> >  
> > > Hello Dapeng and Alex,
> > >  
> > > I hope you had a chance to digest our responses to your comments and 
> > > questions about the API work.
> > > If you have any remaining issues, please let us know over the email at 
> > > your earliest convenience.
> > > It'd be good if you can articulate them in detail.
> > >  
> > >  
> > > Thanks.
> > >  
> > > Alper  
> >  
>  

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