Bass sounds.... Aah, hours of pi*ssing round with filters, Nah, its actually been fairly painless
I take it your A4000 has the stock sine, triangle and square waves in the microscopic amount of ROM you get when you turn it on? Its all there, no need to find analogue bass samples or worry you need a new synth... For a start, just select a sine wave, give it a MIDI channel and pitch it right down to about -26 or 28. If you want to keep it manageable in mono before compression, pan it hard left or right and keep it on one mixer channel (for some reason it still leaks a little to the other side, its never truly mono but its fine). It helps to have the AIEB1 output expansion board as only 4 standard channels (only 2 of which are usefull with effects) is crap, but then it was half the price of an EMU at the time. Just assign it a LPF + LPF (double low pass filter) and crank the resonance up to 31 (or higher if it can) and assign a controller wheel/slider on your keyboard to 74 - hold the keys and have a play with the wheels - it should make some fairly dirty noises so far Other things to try - boost the low eq on the sine wave in the filter section (50 - 100hz), Repeat the above so that you have double or even triple the above bass sound on one channel on the mixer and see how fat things can get, or do the same with a mixture of pitched down square, sine and tri waves - with different filters, or try stereo ones and detune and expand (see easy edit section) them to make them fatter with more growls. Keep experimenting and after a couple of hours it will surprise you with the sounds it can make...I think Detuning makes it go stereo even if the sample is panned hard, which is annoying, but unavoidable. Try a sequence of Amp Simulation then Compression + Distortion from the effects blocks if you have some spare and it should get very violent - poss too much, but it should show how far you can push it. In general, the sine waves give a gentler round sub bass (use a slow speed sine LFO with a little delay on the pitch to about 35 and the same for a filter LFO and by experimenting with the speed you'll get RAM style Liftin Spirits 1998 wobble bass in no time). The techniques above used on square waves will result in the nastiest Dylan style bass (esp with Reverb - Large Hall on my Lexicon Reflex makes it go all a bit too scary for me). i haven't experimented with the Triangular waves so much as i usually use fat sines to get some deep Digital sub rumbles going on (needs a least 2 sines with slightly different settings to introduce life into things. Also to ensure a smooth start and finish when the sample is activated make sure the ASDR envelope is played with too - 88, 125, 125, 90 for soft bass and no start clicks etc. Make sure you use the sample setting in the Loop edit section (loop, shot, shot reverse etc) that has an arrow with the circle in the middle of it so that the LFOs don't do weird things and they cycle smoothly. As you can see having the A3000 gave me some good lessons for when I get my Supernova 2 to program.... Phew, hope that all helps Laters Dan -----Original Message----- From: Scott Bradley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 January 2002 09:18 To: Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List Subject: [dnb-prod] RE: Emu Audity I have the A4000 myself. Yup looping strings is a bitch. I was thinking maybe you had and Akai or EMU in which case you could buy one of those Pro sample CD's with all the loop points already done. The Vintage Keys seems to have been a popular box with many people, so maybe a Proteus 2000 will have similar or better samples in. Bukem also uses Roland strings. A good reverb box would help also to give it that depth etc. Either way a Proteus or a JV/XV will do the job. All fine machines I bet. Not sure I'd take the gamble with Vintage Keys though. Through interest do you use your A3000 for Bass ? If so how do you use it for ripping B-Lines ? Cheers Scott > > Thanks, Scott, > > I have a A3000 sampler, but never found that looping strings gave me the > nice delicate, quick sounds that a good synth gives - it always > sounded too > much like i had looped a sample. > > But I think i have it..... > > Funny you should mention that SOS, cos I just had a look at the > SOS article > on Timeless and Rob Playford said they used a Emu Vintage Keys (on several > MIDI channels for control) for the strings on Inner City Life. Funnily > enough Adam F, 4 Hero, Bukem and Omni Trio used it too according > to the kit > lists from Graeme, so I'm guessing its a fine machine for > gorgeous pads and > searing strings as almost all the stuff that they made 5 yrs ago revolved > round those kind of quality sounds. > Could be worth a look... > > Cheers, > > Dan > > -----Original Message----- > From: Scott Bradley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 03 January 2002 08:34 > To: Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List > Subject: [dnb-prod] RE: Emu Audity > > > For Pads the Waldorf XT is the beast, for strings look for a Roland in the > JV or the XV range. The Proteus 2000 is also good for that sort of thing. > > The good thing about the Rolands and EMU's is the extra plugin boards, > apparently the Roland Orchestral board is amazing. > > > Do you have a sampler ? Why not buy a sample CD with strings on ? The > Proteus and JV's are just boxes with samples in with good synth > features. A > top end EMU, Akai or Yamaha sampler will give you excellent synth features > .... > > I have a JV1080 which is great for calling up piano and string > patches, also > good for making strange spacey pads .... but at the end of the > day I hardly > use it and a my sampler could do the same job pretty much. > > > If you look on the sound on sound website and do a search for Rob > Playford, > there's an article on how he did timeless. > > > Cheers > > > Scott > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Daniel Norman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 03 January 2002 16:16 > To: Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List > Subject: [dnb-prod] Emu Audity > > > Hi, > > Just a quick query, but has anyone ever owned an Emu AUDITY 2000 (like a > light blue Proteus 2000). Anyone rate them? > > Digital Village have them for �350 and they used to be �1200, so > its either > a sale bargain or they are shite - mind you Sound on Sound reckoned they > were pretty versatile with 16 part arps, modulation and Z Plane > filters, but > i wondered if they were any good for nice synth strings/sounds and pads or > subtle rolling basslines with the arpeggiators? I think it might but don't > want to waste my money. > > If not what is everyones favourite synth for nice sounds (ie not > nasty bass, > which we know is for the Virus, Novations etc) - Roland XP30s or > Wavestations?- i need fat Good Looking pads and Timeless strings.... > > Any help appreciated.... > > Laters > > Dan > --- > Drum&Bass Arena Producers Discussion List http://www.breakbeat.co.uk > You are currently subscribed to dnb-prod as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > DISCLAIMER: The Information in this message is confidential and may be > legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. > Access to this > message by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended > recipient, any disclosure, copying, or distribution of the message, or any > action or ommision taken by you in reliance on it, is prohibited > and may be > unlawful. 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