Cheers just wondering. I've been programming patches on my MicroQ for a few weeks and can't quite get them brutal enough.
I guess it's all down to FX at the end of the day. Tried to strart to write a tune and I've forgotten how to ... too much much patch creation. Cheers Scott > -----Original Message----- > From: Daniel Norman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 03 January 2002 18:10 > To: Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List > Subject: [dnb-prod] RE: Emu Audity > > > Bass sounds.... > > Aah, hours of pi*ssing round with filters, Nah, its actually been fairly > painless > > I take it your A4000 has the stock sine, triangle and square waves in the > microscopic amount of ROM you get when you turn it on? Its all there, no > need to find analogue bass samples or worry you need a new synth... > > For a start, just select a sine wave, give it a MIDI channel and pitch it > right down to about -26 or 28. > > If you want to keep it manageable in mono before compression, pan it hard > left or right and keep it on one mixer channel (for some reason it still > leaks a little to the other side, its never truly mono but its fine). It > helps to have the AIEB1 output expansion board as only 4 standard channels > (only 2 of which are usefull with effects) is crap, but then it > was half the > price of an EMU at the time. > > Just assign it a LPF + LPF (double low pass filter) and crank the > resonance > up to 31 (or higher if it can) and assign a controller > wheel/slider on your > keyboard to 74 - hold the keys and have a play with the wheels - it should > make some fairly dirty noises so far > > Other things to try - boost the low eq on the sine wave in the filter > section (50 - 100hz), > Repeat the above so that you have double or even triple the above > bass sound > on one channel on the mixer and see how fat things can get, > or do the same with a mixture of pitched down square, sine and tri waves - > with different filters, or try stereo ones and detune and expand (see easy > edit section) them to make them fatter with more growls. Keep > experimenting > and after a couple of hours it will surprise you with the sounds it can > make...I think Detuning makes it go stereo even if the sample is panned > hard, which is annoying, but unavoidable. > > Try a sequence of Amp Simulation then Compression + Distortion from the > effects blocks if you have some spare and it should get very > violent - poss > too much, but it should show how far you can push it. > > In general, the sine waves give a gentler round sub bass (use a slow speed > sine LFO with a little delay on the pitch to about 35 and the same for a > filter LFO and by experimenting with the speed you'll get RAM style Liftin > Spirits 1998 wobble bass in no time). The techniques above used on square > waves will result in the nastiest Dylan style bass (esp with > Reverb - Large > Hall on my Lexicon Reflex makes it go all a bit too scary for > me). i haven't > experimented with the Triangular waves so much as i usually use > fat sines to > get some deep Digital sub rumbles going on (needs a least 2 sines with > slightly different settings to introduce life into things. > > Also to ensure a smooth start and finish when the sample is activated make > sure the ASDR envelope is played with too - 88, 125, 125, 90 for soft bass > and no start clicks etc. Make sure you use the sample setting in the Loop > edit section (loop, shot, shot reverse etc) that has an arrow with the > circle in the middle of it so that the LFOs don't do weird things and they > cycle smoothly. > As you can see having the A3000 gave me some good lessons for > when I get my > Supernova 2 to program.... > Phew, hope that all helps > > Laters > > Dan > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Scott Bradley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 03 January 2002 09:18 > To: Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List > Subject: [dnb-prod] RE: Emu Audity > > > I have the A4000 myself. > > Yup looping strings is a bitch. I was thinking maybe you had and Akai or > EMU in which case you could buy one of those Pro sample CD's with all the > loop points already done. > > > The Vintage Keys seems to have been a popular box with many > people, so maybe > a Proteus 2000 will have similar or better samples in. > > Bukem also uses Roland strings. > > > A good reverb box would help also to give it that depth etc. > > > Either way a Proteus or a JV/XV will do the job. All fine machines I bet. > Not sure I'd take the gamble with Vintage Keys though. > > > Through interest do you use your A3000 for Bass ? If so how do you use it > for ripping B-Lines ? > > > Cheers > > > Scott > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, Scott, > > > > I have a A3000 sampler, but never found that looping strings gave me the > > nice delicate, quick sounds that a good synth gives - it always > > sounded too > > much like i had looped a sample. > > > > But I think i have it..... > > > > Funny you should mention that SOS, cos I just had a look at the > > SOS article > > on Timeless and Rob Playford said they used a Emu Vintage Keys > (on several > > MIDI channels for control) for the strings on Inner City Life. Funnily > > enough Adam F, 4 Hero, Bukem and Omni Trio used it too according > > to the kit > > lists from Graeme, so I'm guessing its a fine machine for > > gorgeous pads and > > searing strings as almost all the stuff that they made 5 yrs > ago revolved > > round those kind of quality sounds. > > Could be worth a look... > > > > Cheers, > > > > Dan > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Scott Bradley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: 03 January 2002 08:34 > > To: Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List > > Subject: [dnb-prod] RE: Emu Audity > > > > > > For Pads the Waldorf XT is the beast, for strings look for a > Roland in the > > JV or the XV range. The Proteus 2000 is also good for that > sort of thing. > > > > The good thing about the Rolands and EMU's is the extra plugin boards, > > apparently the Roland Orchestral board is amazing. > > > > > > Do you have a sampler ? Why not buy a sample CD with strings on ? The > > Proteus and JV's are just boxes with samples in with good synth > > features. A > > top end EMU, Akai or Yamaha sampler will give you excellent > synth features > > .... > > > > I have a JV1080 which is great for calling up piano and string > > patches, also > > good for making strange spacey pads .... but at the end of the > > day I hardly > > use it and a my sampler could do the same job pretty much. > > > > > > If you look on the sound on sound website and do a search for Rob > > Playford, > > there's an article on how he did timeless. > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > Scott > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Daniel Norman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: 03 January 2002 16:16 > > To: Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List > > Subject: [dnb-prod] Emu Audity > > > > > > Hi, > > > > Just a quick query, but has anyone ever owned an Emu AUDITY 2000 (like a > > light blue Proteus 2000). Anyone rate them? > > > > Digital Village have them for �350 and they used to be �1200, so > > its either > > a sale bargain or they are shite - mind you Sound on Sound reckoned they > > were pretty versatile with 16 part arps, modulation and Z Plane > > filters, but > > i wondered if they were any good for nice synth strings/sounds > and pads or > > subtle rolling basslines with the arpeggiators? I think it > might but don't > > want to waste my money. > > > > If not what is everyones favourite synth for nice sounds (ie not > > nasty bass, > > which we know is for the Virus, Novations etc) - Roland XP30s or > > Wavestations?- i need fat Good Looking pads and Timeless strings.... > > > > Any help appreciated.... > > > > Laters > > > > Dan > > --- > > Drum&Bass Arena Producers Discussion List http://www.breakbeat.co.uk > > You are currently subscribed to dnb-prod as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > DISCLAIMER: The Information in this message is confidential and may be > > legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. > > Access to this > > message by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended > > recipient, any disclosure, copying, or distribution of the > message, or any > > action or ommision taken by you in reliance on it, is prohibited > > and may be > > unlawful. 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