>>And about the subgroups, the 1604 machine also has subgroup insert,even the CR1604 (non-VLZ).
are you sure??? they have channel inserts and i think sub group "direct outs" which aren't quite the same thing from mackie's website: 16 new precision-engineered XDR(tm) Extended Dynamic Range premium studio-grade mic preamps with: Ultra-wide 0-60dB gain range 130dB dynamic range for 24-bit, 192kHz sampling rate inputs +22dBu line input handling Distortion under 0.0007% (20Hz-20kHz) Advanced DC pulse transformer RF rejection ****4 subgroups with left & right assigns and direct outs**** 16 line inputs, 16 channel inserts dj daze advisory / armageddon recordings http://stage.vitaminic.co.uk/dj_daze ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Warnstam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 5:25 PM Subject: [dnb-prod] Re: Mackie 1604 and Soundcraft FX16 > Oh. Wouldn't that cost me a fortune? > > And about the subgroups, the 1604 machine also has subgroup insert,even the CR1604 > (non-VLZ). That is one nice feature, right now I am using two mono channels as return > from the subgroup effect chain (Air FX + compressor). And I neeed that effect chain > on the subgroups, that is what I use most on the mixer in terms of routing. > > The airy enhancer thingy sounds very nice too, but that makes me wonder what price > range we are talking about... > > I am open to buying used gear, but in Sweden all Mackie gear seems to be more > expensive than in the US (of course) and also in other countries (for some reason). > > - Janne > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.groundmotion.com/ > .--------------------------------. > | "Faber quisque fortunae suae." | > '--------------------------------' > > dj daze wrote: > > > and if you can really stretch it, go for the 24:4 vlz. > > > > only about �200 more for 8 extra channels, sub-group inserts > > [the main reason i got one - very handy] and that "air" > > exciter thingy on each sub group. > > > > dj daze > > > > advisory / armageddon recordings > > http://stage.vitaminic.co.uk/dj_daze > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Brent Babb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 8:54 AM > > Subject: [dnb-prod] Re: Mackie 1604 and Soundcraft FX16 > > > > > i have the CR and at work i use the VLZ. the VLZ has a lot more versatile > > > routing options (4 subgroups), 16 XLR inputs, 4 band EQ, tape inputs, and > > > probably some other stuff i can't remember. > > > if you have the cash, go for the VLZ. > > > peace > > > --- > Drum&Bass Arena Producers Discussion List http://www.breakbeat.co.uk > You are currently subscribed to dnb-prod as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Drum&Bass Arena Producers Discussion List http://www.breakbeat.co.uk You are currently subscribed to dnb-prod as: [email protected] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
