Yeah I'm with Trust here, I find Digital's breaks are very high quality, and I havent heard any of them on sample CDs. I'd be interested to know what (if any) sample CDs you are referring to...As for repetitiveness, I think you'll find it's hard to make a track that is never looping but still works on the dancefloor. People don't want to stand there at a club and admire the
complex and original way a track is put together, they want something that has effective raw elements, beats, bass and hooks, which I reckon Digital is quality at. I could think of hundreds of producers that are guilty of churning out shit tunes because they know they will work, I wouldn't say Digital is anywhere near the guiltiest! It all depends on what style of DnB you're into I suppose...Some people will think "God that tune is shit!", while others will think "Oh my God that is rufffff!!!". I must admit that's exactly what happened to me when everyone started raving on about Bad Company, I really didn't appreciate alot of their tracks. But again, each to their own... Kryptic >From: "Trust" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List" ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [dnb-prod] Re: Umm.... >Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 13:24:47 -0800 > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Turbo Hz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 2:49 AM >Subject: [dnb-prod] Re: Umm.... > > > > I'm with you here. D&S tunes are no more than drum breaks taken off >sample > > CDs, and stolen stabs arranged in the more simplistic way. Oh, and add a > > deep sub bass... > >Are you kidding me??? Digital's breaks are second to none. Show me what >sample CD the breaks from Deadline, Phantom Force or Remote Control came >from. Even when he uses "standard" breaks like amens, etc. they still >sound >way different then anyone else's. > > > Build the main loop, write the intro adding the elements one by one.. >let >if > > loop until the end. > > The result is a 5 minutes tune by the most overated d&b producers > > nowadays... > >The focus of most Digital tunes are not about 'how crazy can I make this >arrangement for all the the attention-deficiet kids out there'. Rather the >focus is on rhythm and effect. This is essentialy a dub production ethic >carried over into drum n bass. Most of Digital's tunes are basically dub >tracks with a drum n bass beat. If your not a fan of dub i can see why you >might not like he tunes, but most of his tracks are harder to make then a >lot of the two step neurocrap passing for music these days. > > > Sure, I like some of their tunes, but can't believe this "See? We've got >a > > another one ready to go!" can fill an astist's creative desire... > >Well i certainly agree with you here. But almost every producer is guilty >of this at some point. Seems like once an upcoming artist finally breaks >through, the quality of the tunes tends to wane as the artist is forced to >churn out tracks at a faster clip to keep up with the demand for tunes with >their name on it. That said, I'm not so quick to write off past >accomplishments due to one shady tune. > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Daniel Norman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 7:19 PM > > Subject: [dnb-prod] Umm.... > > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > Slightly off topic, > > > > > > But... > > > > > > You know how most of us slave over our tunes constantly trying to make > > them > > > different but roughly equal in quality to the ones by established > > producers > > > in the hope of writing something good enough to send off. > > > Have a listen to Digital and Spirits new tune (love is love) on the >D+B > > > arena dubplate focus. > > > > > > Er, filler alert - these guys rock when on form, but to make a track >like > > > that using the bog standard Horizons break and the break they always >use > > > (since day one) with some dodgy stabs when they can do stuff like >Gateman > > > and Final Chapter is just lazy...Champion Bubbler is a bit lame >too...do > > we > > > dig those 2 bar standard breaks switching back and forth like it was >1996? > > > Soz - just had to get that one out, my 2p worth... > > > > > > They aren't awful tunes and they are fairly well produced, it just >seems > > > like they could try harder considering they don't have a day job to > > > juggle... > > > Laters > > > > > > Dan > > > > > > (maybe i'm bitter, he, he) > > > > > > > > > DISCLAIMER: The Information in this message is confidential and may be > > > legally privileged. 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