Outta Luck mode for 2 secs...
Take just one snare drum, then create, lets say three,
different layers of the same drum. Change each by a few cents pitch. A
little bit of reverb on one layered snare will help as well.
Peace
Martyn
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From: ::
erfling :: [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 15:00
To: Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List
Subject: [dnb-prod] Re: bass drums AND SNARES!!!
yeah I cut everything up in recycle and always use the same
groove quantise
on all my drums so that the timing
is spot on - the problem I'm having is
getting the
two or three snares to sound like one fat drum, rather than two
/ three drums stacked on top of each other...
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>Date:
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>
>I find if I make a drum loop (using whatever method)
and then convert it
>into a Rex file using
Recycle and then stick that into the Rex player on
>Reason you get decent midi control over the timing of the beats.
You can
>also adjust pitch, filter, effects for
each individual hit. If a snare or
>whatever is
out of time slightly, you just move it along on the Drum Roll
>editor in Cubase/Logic - but more often than not you
don't need to do this.
>I'm sure a similar thing
can be done using normal samples and a sampler,
>but
>I really like the integration of
all the parameters in one file format -
>not
>forgetting the 'stretchyness' of
rex files!
>
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: :: erfling :: [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: 22 November 2002 14:49
>To: Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List
>Subject: [dnb-prod] Re: bass drums AND SNARES!!!
>
>
>Terry,
>
>yeah I did mean hz, that 33hz thing is something that I'm
experimenting
>with
>
>after speaking to one of the
engineers at the studio where I work. I maaged
>to get it to sound OK a few times but with a bassline over the
top if
>sounded pants. from what your saying it
sounds like the 33hz is just a bad
>idea, think
I'll leave it alone...
>
>But what about snares, I've been experimenting with layering up
snares, one
>bright one eq'd around 4khz for the
'snap' and a more wooden one aaround
>800hz for
more body / fatness. It sounds ok-ish but I'm having alot of
>problems getting them to sit right, I've tried getti ng
them into the same
>pitch and making sure the
waves both peak in the same place but still often
>sounds like a an out of time mix, with the snares 'clanging'
slightly. Any
>tips?
>
>cheers
>
>
>
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>Subject: [dnb-prod] Re: bass drums
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>Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 14:20:36 +0000
>
>
> >Damn man, kick drums @ 33hz( and I
assume u meant hz NOT khz) ?!?!? No
> >wonder
you have problems getting them to sound right!! Bear in mind that
> >most nearfield monitors don't go down that far on
their frequency
>response.
>
> >Personally, I roll off
everything below 75hz and boost ~80Hz. And yeah,
> >the same as other bods I layer a 909 (more "punch" than 808)
kick
> >underneath another kick with more
mid/high frequencies. I often then
>notch
>
>
>off a bit at 200-800Hz to reduce muddieness. I also oftem notch
off a
>bit
> >@
~80Hz on my bassline but boost ~50Hz to give the kick a bit off
space.
> >Works a treat :D
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>From: ":: erfling ::"
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>>Subject: [dnb-prod] Re: bass drums
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>>Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 11:52:26 +0000
>
>>
> >>Easy fella,
> >>
> >>What I often do is
use two different bass drums, one quite low and subby
> >>(maybe even an old skool techno kick), eq'd at about
71hz and then
>another
>
> >>one that is has a bit more
top end (maybe a sampled drum from a live kit
>/
>
>
>>loop) with a bit more of a knocking sound eq'd around 1-2Khz you can
>also
> >>use
another more subby bass drum eq'd around 33khz (use very sparingly!)
> >>but I have had problems getting them to sound
right. When you're putting
> >>bass drums
on top of each other, you might need to tune them all to the
> >>same pitch (or an octave above / below) also
try and make sure the peaks
> >>(loudest
part of the sound) are sitting right on top of each other by
> >>changing the start position of the sample.
maybe worry about this bit
> >>after equing
and layering though as you could be there for hours!
> >>
> >>Hope this
helps!
> >>
>
>>catch up soon,
> >>
> >>Dan
>
>>
> >>
>
>>
> >>>From: "ANDYGEEZERBLOKE"
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> >>>Subject: [dnb-prod] bass drums
> >>>Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 10:23:16
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> >>>
>
>>>sorry if this has been covered before but i was wondering how to
>process
>
>>>bass drums to give them more depth and power. Ive heard
that using
> >>>reverb
> >>>followed by a gate has this kind of effect but it
always sounds pants
> >>>when i
> >>>try it. maybe i do something wrong.
Ive also tried heavy compression
>but
> >>>ive still not been satisfied with the
result. maybe i just need better
>
>>>origional drum samples?
>
>>>
> >>> has anyone got
any brief hints or tips? They would be greatly
> >>>appreciated!
>
>>>
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