Jimbo,
I'm getting all this kidz emails LOL. Itz the wrong Andy. I did not write
that track.  Here one of mine if you want to check it out...  hit me with
some feedback...

http://www.phreenugz.com/syntax/phree_nugz_hippie_remix.wma     (this is NOT
my first track LOL )

Syntax Era / Phree Nugz
Bong Island Ent / Cousins / VirtualOm


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jimbo's Drunk again" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 5:20 AM
Subject: [dnb-prod] RE: Check out my first good d'n'b track: Darkspace


>
> Andy's hit it on the head.
> Nice track but it does drag.  Drums need to be memorable and the sub bass
> needs to be something special to carry the track along.
> Love the atmos though. Maybe a change in melody somewhere might spice it
up
> a little.
> Keep up the good work though.
>
> Jimbo :o)
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Andy Abang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: "Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List"
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: [dnb-prod] RE: Check out my first good d'n'b track: Darkspace
> >Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 12:59:34 -0800
> >
> >Please don't think me harsh, I'm just being as honest as I can to help ya
> >in
> >the growing process :)
> >
> >Honestly i hear some good ideas here but they're not very well
developed...
> >while I don't see the point in every song being dancefloor I also think
> >there's a lot to be said about structure... but in every song there
should
> >be a functional and logical progression of energy and/or mood and this
> >seems
> >kind of even-keel all the way through... the intro drags a bit IMO... if
> >you're going to build something up that much the drop should be more
> >intense... cutting the intro to maybe 64 or 80 bars would probably do a
lot
> >in itself unless you wanted to go for more of an epic effect. and I would
> >recommend maybe putting the bassline that comes in about 4:09 earlier on
in
> >the track and making it more of a point of focus throughout with
variation
> >here and there... the track is a little bit lacking in the dramatic
effect
> >that could be achieved with more of a "hook" (which the bassline
generally
> >provides).
> >
> >I think this would benefit a lot from more variation in drum patterns...
> >the
> >same pattern repeats over and over without much of a sense of build. What
I
> >would recommend doing is leaving your kicks and snares in roughly the
same
> >places (maybe changing it up and making slightly different, more
syncopated
> >/ "off" patterns at beginning or ends of measures) but placing different
> >arrangements of hats / cymbals / rides / percussion or percussive
elements
> >over them in different parts, maybe changing the arrangement every 16 or
32
> >bars... to illustrate what I mean I use kemal as an example... listen to
> >something like kemal's "plan b" on timeless... SO MUCH VARIATION... and
for
> >what is an essentially simple track his drum programming carries the
whole
> >thing throughout because it's constantly changing.
> >
> >That little filtered fucked up break at the end could be edited into
> >different patterns and used in several places in the track as well, at
the
> >end or beginning of a set of measures, sort of as "punctuation" between
> >different sections of the track... just to keep the drum programming more
> >interesting and all that.
> >
> >I agree with Josh about the horns/stabs... they get repetitive... try
> >filtering maybe, maybe add some delay, flange, etc... change up the
melody
> >here and there... it's a bit too straightforward... something a little
more
> >elusive would add a bit of intrigue.
> >
> >Watch your levels...
> >
> >the atmospherics are excellent...
> >
> >overall - IMO it has potential, but needs work. keep at it and keep
posting
> >stuff :)
> >
> >I hope i was of some help and didn't just come across as a bitchy, jerky
> >bastard.
> >
> >much respect,
> >
> >Andy
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: James Lewis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 10:17 AM
> >To: Drum & Bass Arena Discussion List
> >Subject: [dnb-prod] Check out my first good d'n'b track: Darkspace
> >
> >
> >Hey,
> >
> >Although it has litrely taken me years to come up with my first good
> >d'n'b tone.  Check it out and tell me what you think. Here's the link:
> >http://www.vitaminic.com/cgi-php/get_file.php3?modo=1&bid=437896
> >
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