[dnb-prod] RE: Check out my first good d'n'b track: Darkspace

Josh Steiner Fri, 21 Feb 2003 17:26:27 -0800

hillarious... but did you know that drugs are bad? some ads on tv said so, it must be true....

Bong Island Entertainment wrote:

Jimbo,
I'm getting all this kidz emails LOL. Itz the wrong Andy. I did not write
that track.  Here one of mine if you want to check it out...  hit me with
some feedback...
http://www.phreenugz.com/syntax/phree_nugz_hippie_remix.wma     (this is NOT
my first track LOL )
Syntax Era / Phree Nugz
Bong Island Ent / Cousins / VirtualOm
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Subject: [dnb-prod] RE: Check out my first good d'n'b track: Darkspace
Andy's hit it on the head. Nice track but it does drag. Drums need to be memorable and the sub bass needs to be something special to carry the track along. Love the atmos though. Maybe a change in melody somewhere might spice it

up
a little.
Keep up the good work though.
Jimbo :o)
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Subject: [dnb-prod] RE: Check out my first good d'n'b track: Darkspace
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 12:59:34 -0800
Please don't think me harsh, I'm just being as honest as I can to help ya
in
the growing process :)
Honestly i hear some good ideas here but they're not very well
developed...

while I don't see the point in every song being dancefloor I also think there's a lot to be said about structure... but in every song there

should

be a functional and logical progression of energy and/or mood and this seems kind of even-keel all the way through... the intro drags a bit IMO... if you're going to build something up that much the drop should be more intense... cutting the intro to maybe 64 or 80 bars would probably do a

lot

in itself unless you wanted to go for more of an epic effect. and I would recommend maybe putting the bassline that comes in about 4:09 earlier on

in

the track and making it more of a point of focus throughout with

variation

here and there... the track is a little bit lacking in the dramatic

effect

that could be achieved with more of a "hook" (which the bassline

generally

provides).

I think this would benefit a lot from more variation in drum patterns... the same pattern repeats over and over without much of a sense of build. What

I

would recommend doing is leaving your kicks and snares in roughly the

same

places (maybe changing it up and making slightly different, more

syncopated

/ "off" patterns at beginning or ends of measures) but placing different arrangements of hats / cymbals / rides / percussion or percussive

elements

over them in different parts, maybe changing the arrangement every 16 or

32

bars... to illustrate what I mean I use kemal as an example... listen to something like kemal's "plan b" on timeless... SO MUCH VARIATION... and

for

what is an essentially simple track his drum programming carries the

whole

thing throughout because it's constantly changing.

That little filtered fucked up break at the end could be edited into different patterns and used in several places in the track as well, at

the
end or beginning of a set of measures, sort of as "punctuation" between
different sections of the track... just to keep the drum programming more
interesting and all that.
I agree with Josh about the horns/stabs... they get repetitive... try filtering maybe, maybe add some delay, flange, etc... change up the
melody

here and there... it's a bit too straightforward... something a little

more

elusive would add a bit of intrigue.

Watch your levels...

the atmospherics are excellent...

overall - IMO it has potential, but needs work. keep at it and keep

posting
stuff :)
I hope i was of some help and didn't just come across as a bitchy, jerky
bastard.
much respect,

Andy
-----Original Message-----
From: James Lewis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 10:17 AM
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Subject: [dnb-prod] Check out my first good d'n'b track: Darkspace
Hey,
Although it has litrely taken me years to come up with my first good
d'n'b tone.  Check it out and tell me what you think. Here's the link:
http://www.vitaminic.com/cgi-php/get_file.php3?modo=1&bid=437896
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