Gravis <ring3k <at> adaptivetime.com> writes: > > > well, here's what _can_ assure that the transition will be at least > > not complete hell and requiring a total abandonment of devuan for > > debian and vice-versa (i.e. a total and complete wipe-down of a hard > > drive and a reinstall from scratch): > > Why do you say that? I use parts of > stable/testing/unstable/experimental debian with parts of ubuntu and > mint just fine without having to clear my system.
wow. you are incredibly brave. much respect. question: are you an experienced computer user? the reason i ask: what chances would you rate an average computer user being able to recover their system if they made a mixture of debian and ubuntu packages and it went wrong? for a client, i maintain a system with both TDE (Trinity Desktop) and deb-multimedia packages on it. the reason why i added TDE is because KDE 4 is such hell, and gnome has gone the "let's put everything in binary databases" route, that i was forced to stick with KDE 3.5 for as long as possible (in order to be able to remotely ssh in and edit KDE's text-based config files for my computer-illiterate client). now that i've converted to TDE, i am in a *different* kind of hell - one where upgrades (including in some cases security upgrades) are flat-out impossible. to support the purchase of a new (recent) printer which requires hplip 3.16 for example i had to compile hplip *from source code* because TDE *even with latest packages* forces hplip 3.12 *not* 3.16. i cannot do an apt-get dist-upgrade on this system because TDE has replaced some of the key debian packages and they've not been upgraded by the TDE team. we are now in "package dependency hell". this kind of "package dependency hell" is the kind of thing that only really *really* experienced developers are capable of getting themselves out of. the average end-user would just... give up and look for an alternative OS. or would ask an experienced developer for help. the only reason why i am accepting this package dependency hell is because it provides the client with what they need. ... but you and i are both experienced debian systems administrators. and that's the point: i didn't ask if *in your personal experience* *you* were happy to maintain a complex system. i was pointing out that the *average person* is likely to get into absolute hell-on-earth by even remotely contemplating mixing two incompatible debian-based distros. would you agree that such risky scenarios are something that the devuan team should work hard to ensure that the average end-user does not get into absolute hell? l. _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
