On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 01:20:58PM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 12:21:11PM +0100, John Hughes wrote: > > On 20/12/15 11:18, Adam Borowski wrote: > > >On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 10:12:05AM +0100, John Hughes wrote: > > >> > > >>Huh? systemd-shim is a tool for using libbpam-systemd (which Gnome > > >>depends > > >>on) without systemd being *installed* > > >> > > >>In fact it *breaks* systemd, you can't have them both installed. > > >Package: libpam-systemd > > >[...] > > >Depends: libc6 (>= 2.17), libpam0g (>= 0.99.7.1), libselinux1 (>= 1.32), > > > systemd (= 228-2), libpam-runtime (>= 1.0.1-6), dbus, > > > systemd-shim (>= 8-2) | systemd-sysv > > > > > Yes, like I said, libpam-systemd depends on systemd-shim *or* systemd-sysv. > > > > You don't need or want systemd installed if you have systemd-shim installed. > > Please reread what I pasted again. There's a hard dependency on systemd. > And libpam-systemd is the only real user of systemd-shim.
To achieve some clarity I performed a few experiments using user-mode aptitude on my alpha-two Jessie devuan system. Yes, libpam-systemd does depend on systemd, as claimed by Adam Borowski. No, systemd-shim does not depend on systemd, and it conflicts with systemd. You cannot install both, as claimed by John Hughes. Are there other users of libpam-systemd? If so, are some of them unreal? What is the top-level package for installing gnome? -- hendrik > > -- > A tit a day keeps the vet away. > _______________________________________________ > Dng mailing list > [email protected] > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list [email protected] https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
