On 20/12/15 13:20, Adam Borowski wrote:
On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 12:21:11PM +0100, John Hughes wrote:
On 20/12/15 11:18, Adam Borowski wrote:
Package: libpam-systemd
[...]
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.17), libpam0g (>= 0.99.7.1), libselinux1 (>= 1.32),
  systemd (= 228-2), libpam-runtime (>= 1.0.1-6), dbus,
  systemd-shim (>= 8-2) | systemd-sysv

Yes, like I said, libpam-systemd depends on systemd-shim *or* systemd-sysv.

You don't need or want systemd installed if you have systemd-shim installed.
Please reread what I pasted again.  There's a hard dependency on systemd.
And libpam-systemd is the only real user of systemd-shim.


You are in fact right, libpam-systemd needs systemd installed, and either systemd as pid 1, or systemd-shim installed (and hence init as pid 1).

That's not what I was hoping for.  I'll have to do more investigation.

Sorry for the confusion.

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