On Sun, 23 Jul 2017 00:32:11 -0700 Rick Moen <r...@linuxmafia.com> wrote:
> And, by the way, Steve Litt's scenario of Linux expansion in various > Third World countries using scrounged P4 machines is also cheering, > except for the bit about paying for the rather high amount of > electricity they draw, which makes them a poor deal compared to more > modern machines even if the latter cost more. Unless you own your own > hydroelectric or photovoltaic plant, electricity isn't free. Hallo Rick, this may be true from the consumer's point of view, but apparently, the energy needed to produce a new computer can exceed its lifetime savings by far. Quote from the German "Umweltbundesamt" (environmental agency): | The production of a laptop consumes so much energy that for energetic | reasons it is never worthwhile to exchange an old, still functional | device for a new, more energy-efficient device. If the new laptop is | ten percent more economical than the old one, it would have to be used | for almost 90 years, until it was worthwhile - from the point of view | of climate protection. Even if the new laptop - unrealistic - requires | 70% less power, it would have to be used for around 13 years, until it | has paid for itself energetically. There are, of course, many good | reasons to buy a new computer. Energy saving is not part of it. [1] | (google translation) Not sure, how up-to-date / backed this information is, especially for the trending SBCs - but I think that the environmental aspects of the production are a heavy argument for supporting older hardware. libre Grüße, Florian NB: I am aware that this thread's discussion originates from an opinion on Cinnamon DE: | On Fri, 21 Jul 2017 23:01:44 +0200 | Dragan FOSS <dragan.f...@gmx.com> wrote: | | > On 07/21/2017 09:02 PM, goli...@dyne.org wrote: | > > <AntoFox> Cinnamon 3.0.x (only amd64) | > | > I think it's best to drop 32-bit support at all... it's such a waste | > of time and resources. [1] http://www.umweltbundesamt.de/umwelttipps-fuer-den-alltag/elektrogeraete/computer-pc-laptop#textpart-3 _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng