On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 02:41:52AM -0500, [email protected] wrote: > On 2018-07-25 02:11, Hleb Valoshka wrote: > > On 7/23/18, Rolf Schmidt <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I would ask, if it is true, that the openssh-server still needs > > > libsystemd0 in ascii? > > > > Yes. > > > > > Can I expect e fix? > > > > It's required just to notify systemd that sshd is running, so in > > systemd-less system it's nop. So mostly libsystemd0 is harmless. > > > > Currently Devuan team doesn't have enough man power to fork every > > single package just to cleanup its dependencies. > > _______________________________________________ > > > > According to KatolaZ libsystemd is "*totally* *harmless* if you > don't have a running systemd as PID 1". It is however annoying to have to > see it though. > > https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=7853#p7853 > > Unfortunately the archive of that post has been corrupted and is no longer > available.
Katolaz wrote on March 2, 2018: > leloft wrote: > > I issued $locate systemd > and got 200 lines of output, including > /etc/systemd/system/* (23 files) > /lib/systemd/system/* (60 files) > /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libsystemd.so.0 (and 0.17.0) > /usr/lib/systemd (25 files) > /usr/bin/deb-systemd-helper ((and deb-systemd-invoke) > /var/lib/systemd/deb-systemd-helper-enabled/* (68 files) > /var/lib/dpkg/info/libsystemd):amd64* (5 files) > > This seems a lot to me. Please could you confirm that an ascii > installation should contain 200 systemd files as part of a normal > ascii installation. Sorry to trouble you if these are trivial > questions, but they feel far from that. > Many thanks > leloft Most of those "alarming" files are just systemd units files, put there by daemons/packages/utilities who "also" support systemd in a way or another. So they are not alarming but just *totally* *harmless* if you don't have a running systemd as PID 1, since only systemd understands and can run them. It would be *totally* *useless* (and utterly *stupid* IMHO) to fork, rebuild, and maintain a few more hundred packages only because they happen to provide a systemd unit file for those systems where systemd is used. libsystemd0 is used by some daemons to verify if systemd is running or not. If it's not, libsystemd is *totally* *harmless*. HND KatolaZ P.S.: I guess we should consider including the last two paragraphs above on www.devuan.org, or put it in the mailing list signature... -- Joel Roth _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list [email protected] https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
