On 23-Oct-2015 07:31 am, Paul Hoffman <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> On 10/23/15, 1:35 PM, "Simon Josefsson" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Hi.  I believe the document is in relatively good shape.  I have one
>> high level concern, and one concern with the document itself that is
>> related to the higher-level concern:
>> 
>> 1) I believe it would be a mistake to publish this without synchronizing
>> the TLS-related aspects of DNS-over-TLS and DNS-over-DTLS.  The
>> documents solve roughly the same problem, with rougly the same
>> technology.  One important difference is how they approach
>> authentication of the peer in TLS.  Given the similarities of the
>> protocols and solutions, this seems like a recipe for implementation
>> frustration.  An implementer would prefer to implement DNS-over-TLS/DTLS
>> as similar as possible.  Having different X.509 (etc) certificate
>> verification code paths depending on whether TLS or DTLS is used appears
>> bad to me.
>> 
>> 2) On TLS verification, this document should reference RFC 6125 and
>> describe how naming information should be compared with the locally
>> known data with what is being presented by the server.  See
>> draft-ietf-dprive-dnsodtls for one way (not necessarily the best one or
>> the most readable or complete way) of doing this.
>> 
>> If merging DNS-over-TLS and DNS-over-DTLS is not an option, another
>> possibility is that TLS-related aspects are deferred from both documents
>> to another third new document that describe how to perform TLS
>> credential verification for DNS-over-(D)TLS in a generalized way.  Then
>> there would be harmony in the TLS-related aspects, and the respective
>> document can focus on the DNS-related aspects.  If document editor
>> cycles is limiting factor, I would volunteer to help write this.
> 
> Fully agree on all counts. If the WG wants to move both -TLS and -DTLS to
> the IETF, it makes no sense at all to have them have different crypto
> properties. I don't care if the answer is "harmonize each before
> finishing" or "harmonize them by reference to a third document".

+1.

-d


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