Hi Paul,

On 10/1/21 11:07 AM, Paul Hoffman wrote:
> On Oct 1, 2021, at 4:50 AM, Brian Haberman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> On 9/23/21 2:17 PM, Ben Schwartz wrote:
>>>
>>> I think this clarifies an important requirements question for the working
>>> group: do we intend to enable authenticated ADoT for names whose TLD
>>> doesn't do ADoT?  If yes, we need a way to authenticate the NS name and a
>>> signal for ADoT support.  If no, we can rely on the parent's ADoT to
>>> authenticate the glue (as suggested in draft-adox).
>>
>> I purposely waited a week to see if anyone would venture an answer to
>> this query. From my perspective, as co-chair, the lack of an answer is
>> quite telling. To me, it indicates that the WG is still not sure where
>> it wants to go with this work.
> 
> If "this work" means authenticated ADoT, I agree. If "this work" means "DS 
> glue", I disagree. The presence of DS glue for resolvers that are doing 
> unauthenticated DoT allows for more encryption of DNS on the Internet.
> 

Sorry for the lack of clarity. I specifically meant the ADoT work.

>> I would contend that the only consistent
>> view I have heard from everyone is that there is not a need to
>> authenticate or encrypt to the root servers. After that, I see a lack of
>> consensus on:
>>
>> 1. ADoT support at TLDs
>> 2. ADoT support at parents for children doing ADoT
>>
>> Granted, in most cases #1 is a degenerate case of #2.
> 
> Given that, can we move forward with the unauthenticated use case, for which 
> there has been a lot of interest? Or do we have to reach consensus on one use 
> case for both of them to move forward?
> 

I see no reason to slow the effort on the unauthenticated use case.

Regards,
Brian


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