On Oct 1, 2021, at 4:50 AM, Brian Haberman <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> On 9/23/21 2:17 PM, Ben Schwartz wrote:
>> 
>> I think this clarifies an important requirements question for the working
>> group: do we intend to enable authenticated ADoT for names whose TLD
>> doesn't do ADoT?  If yes, we need a way to authenticate the NS name and a
>> signal for ADoT support.  If no, we can rely on the parent's ADoT to
>> authenticate the glue (as suggested in draft-adox).
> 
> I purposely waited a week to see if anyone would venture an answer to
> this query. From my perspective, as co-chair, the lack of an answer is
> quite telling. To me, it indicates that the WG is still not sure where
> it wants to go with this work.

If "this work" means authenticated ADoT, I agree. If "this work" means "DS 
glue", I disagree. The presence of DS glue for resolvers that are doing 
unauthenticated DoT allows for more encryption of DNS on the Internet.

> I would contend that the only consistent
> view I have heard from everyone is that there is not a need to
> authenticate or encrypt to the root servers. After that, I see a lack of
> consensus on:
> 
> 1. ADoT support at TLDs
> 2. ADoT support at parents for children doing ADoT
> 
> Granted, in most cases #1 is a degenerate case of #2.

Given that, can we move forward with the unauthenticated use case, for which 
there has been a lot of interest? Or do we have to reach consensus on one use 
case for both of them to move forward?

--Paul Hoffman

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