Randy,

> On Oct 15, 2020, at 4:01 PM, Randy Bush <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> hi joão,
> 
>> I agree with you and that’s why i pushed for the dns wg to have a
>> blind period of candidate collection during which no one sees who else
>> might be volunteering. What you see now is the publication of the
>> candidate list after that period elapsed. Turns out no one else
>> volunteered
> 
> as the dns-wg is not the only one with the same symptom in this season,
> then, assuming we want fresh blood, i suspect have a systemic failure.


During 2004 there was a merging of all things DNS into this working group and 
from around then and for the next ten or so years we had these co-chairs

Jaap Akkerhuis
Peter Koch
Jim Reid

In July 2015 we adopted the new chair selection process and it was decided that 
the then current chairs would step down one per year over the following three 
years.

The new process has been exercised several times since then with these results

Nov 2015, RIPE 71  Peter Koch was succeeded by Dave Knight for a 3 year term
Oct 2016, RIPE 73  Jim Reid was succeeded by Shane Kerr for a 3 year term
Oct 2017, RIPE 75  Jaap Akkerhuis was succeeded by Joao Damas for a 3 year term

Having observed that in all of the three above cases the first person to 
respond to the call for nominations was selected to be a co-chair we changed 
our interpretation of the process and asked that future nominations be sent to 
the wg chairs to be released en masse in order to preclude a first responder 
advantage.

Oct 2018, RIPE 77  Dave Knight was the only volunteer and is serving a second 
and final three year term
Oct 2019, RIPE 79  Shane Kerr was the only volunteer and is serving a second 
and final three year term
Oct 2020, RIPE 81  Joao Damas is the only volunteer

... which I think shows that in recent years the working group has made 
reasonable efforts to hold the door open to fresh blood, it just doesn't seem 
terribly keen to use it.


> but i take your point that we have tried to fix it.  how do we get new folk 
> in the game?


We have three year terms and a two term limit. I'm out a year from now, then 
Shane and then Joao one and two years later. There will have to be fresh blood 
then!


If the working group feels strongly about encouraging new faces perhaps we 
should amend the process such that new co-chairs may servce onlky a single term?

dave

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