bill;

to reiterate my concerns expressed at the mic yesterday,

Thank you very much.
        Ohta-san, would you be comfortable with 200,000,000 devices
        being shipped with the IP address 131.112.32.188 (the address
        of one of your organizations nameservers) being burned into
        eeprom?

I will be comfortable with 200,000,000 devices being shipped with the IP address 127.0.0.1 (an anycast address) being burned into eeprom, which was the point of my comment to you, yesterday.

I'll be fine if 127.0.0.1 is replaced by some anycast address,
as long as certain address range (say /24 in the C swamp or
/16 in class B) of the address is not used by anyone.

        disclaimers about restricting, by IETF fiat, well known addresses
        to special IP ranges will -NOT- work in the real world.

I'm not sure what you mean.


Each well know addresses may have its own range to protect against
route filtering and there is no requirement of mine that
the addresses are restricted to special IP range.

If you are willing to commit your enterprise to absorb 0.1%
of the total packets generated by 200,000,000 devices, then perhaps I will be persuaded that use of well-known addresses
is an operationally acceptable technique.

200,000 devices are not for usual enterprises (or universities) but for ISPs of medium scale.

But, I know an ISP, internal of which I know well, with >3,000,000
subscribers is operating DNS servers for all the subscribers.

So, what is the problem?

        Yes, I know we do it now and it reduces the level of effort
        in getting new features deployed, but in -EVERY- case, the
        use of well known addresses has caused problems.

I think I have shown a solution on the problem on root server addresses with anycast addresses and AS numbers.

If there are other cases, let me know so that I can try to use
anycast approach for the problems.

Masataka Ohta


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