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Hi,

While I agree that it is important to have a similar informational
document for validators, I believe that it should not be part of
4641bis, given its length. Also, The working group has decided to put it
in a separate document during the meeting at IETF78.

Best regards,
  Matthijs

On 12/13/2011 04:02 PM, Paul Hoffman wrote:
> On Dec 12, 2011, at 9:44 PM, Peter Koch wrote:
> 
>> The PROTO writeup for 4641bis is in the makings and
>> the WG has reached consensus concerning the scope and content of the draft, 
>> therefore
>> it is too late now to add another aspect, also given the considerable length 
>> of
>> the document.
> 
> Process point: it is only too late to add to the scope or content of the 
> draft until after the IESG has approved it as an RFC. The PROTO writeup comes 
> before AD evaluation; the AD can (and often does) say "please add discussion 
> of this topic that you left out; only then will I move it to IETF Last Call". 
> Further, during IETF Last Call, it is quite appropriate for community members 
> to say "the document doesn't cover Topic A, and it should"; the AD then 
> decides whether or not to ask the WG to do so.
> 
> Yes, this document is years late. However, if there is relevant topic that is 
> not covered, the history of lateness is not a good enough reason to ignore it.
> 
> Personal opinion: how validators work is very relevant to this document, and 
> very important to have in a BCP as soon as possible.
> 
> --Paul Hoffman
> 
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