On 13 apr 2012, at 22:24, Patrik Fältström wrote:

> +1

In a private chat I am asked to explain my "+1".

Let me explain why.

Today, before negative trust anchors, the responsibility for whether a the 
resolution that is basis for a connection establishment is with the zone owner. 
If the signature fails, it fails, resolution fails, and the connection can not 
be established.

Now, if we have negative trust anchors that the validator is controlling, then 
I interpret it as if this choice of ability to resolve a name moves from the 
zone owner to the validator (or as in the case of X.509 certs to the client).

What I am against is this *CHANGE* in who is responsible.


Further, I think for .COM (and in the US) we are extremely unlucky that more or 
less only one large validator started validating, and then one zone owner made 
mistakes with their DNSSEC data. This made the press and community blame the 
one that did right, the validator, when in fact the one that validated and 
rejected some RRs did the right thing.

In Sweden, where we also had such "incidents" we did not "give up" that easy. 
But, we succeeded because of a I think two things:

- We managed to have more than one major ISP/Resolver to start validating on 
the same date, so as far as I know, no incident, regardless of how bad it was, 
was ever one that blamed the validator.

- We managed to educate press and whoever that could help put a wet blanket 
over all rumors that the validator was the one to blame when validating did not 
work.

Of course this was MUCH easier in Sweden that is a much smaller country than 
"the group of entities that uses .COM".

But, all of this thinking leads me to think about DNSSEC validation "risks" are 
very similar to the risk with deploying IPv6? We have an IPv6 day, but why not 
a DNSSEC day? One day where *many* players at the same time turn on DNSSEC 
validation?

If we did, then maybe it would be easier for parties to turn on validation, 
because it could be easier for them to explain that it is not whoever that is 
validating that is making mistakes at failures, but instead the zone owner?


And to go back to the "+1", I say strongly "+1" because alternatives (like what 
I just described) to changing who is responsible for making a decision of 
whether validation should work or not are not explored enough. Definitely not.

I am not giving up yet, although after my work in a role being responsible for 
many products at an ISP 1996-2000 I definitely understand what the cost is with 
negative press and increased number of calls to customer service.

    Patrik

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