Patrik,

On Apr 13, 2012, at 2:00 PM, Patrik Fältström wrote:
> What I am against is this *CHANGE* in who is responsible.

I don't see NTAs changing who is responsible. I see it changing who absorbs the 
costs. Without NTAs, it is primarily the validator operator and those costs 
can't be passed on to the responsible folks. With NTAs, the validator operator 
can avoid those costs. The authority that has screwed up has increased risks 
that the names they are serving can be poisoned which they presumably care 
about if they have bothered to sign (even if they screwed it up).  I have some 
faith that if an authority screws up, numerous people will make them aware of 
that screwup.

> In Sweden, where we also had such "incidents" we did not "give up" that easy.

As you note, there is a scale issue here.  To be fair, my understanding is that 
the number of customers that would be affected by validation failures detected 
by Comcast alone is about twice the entire population of Sweden.

More pragmatically, while I understand the theory behind rejecting NTAs, I have 
to admit it feels a bit like the IETF rejecting NATs and/or DNS redirection. I 
would be surprised if folks who implement NTAs will stop using them if they are 
not accepted by the IETF.

> But, all of this thinking leads me to think about DNSSEC validation "risks" 
> are very similar to the risk with deploying IPv6? We have an IPv6 day, but 
> why not a DNSSEC day? One day where *many* players at the same time turn on 
> DNSSEC validation?

Definitely a good idea.

Regards,
-drc

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