On 03/13/2013 10:20 AM, Joe Abley wrote:
On 2013-03-13, at 13:17, Doug Barton <[email protected]> wrote:
In order to really make this work a non-trivial number of TLD
registries (which have a variety of different rules and policies)
AND registrars would have to be on board.
No. Where there are registrars involved, you just need a registrar
that can handle your domain name to support it. The
registry-registrar interactions can remain unchanged.
Sure, if you can accomplish getting the registrars that handle your
domains on board then you've accomplished the goal for you. What about
everyone else? Or do we only care about this problem to the extent that
it affects certain TLDs?
Has anyone communicated with them about this topic? The ICANN
forums for both groups would be a good place to start.
No doubt some of them have people here. But this is not an topic that
deals with issues of registries and registrars; it's a DNS protocol
issue. Changing the context to a policy one seems unlikely to result
in additional light.
Why do you think I'm trying to turn it into a policy issue? I never even
used the word policy. What I'm suggesting is that we talk to the people
who may, or may not be willing to use this technique and find out what
they think about it. You seem actively opposed to that, and I can't help
but be curious about why.
You're defining "need" differently than I am. You're saying, "We
need an automated mechanism to deal with DS records." I'm saying
that unless the registries and registrars are on board with the
mechanism we create, it doesn't matter how good it is, it isn't
going to solve the real-world need.
I understand. I think you're wrong.
Ok, show me why I'm wrong. How is this mechanism going to work for you
if the registries and registrars don't implement it?
Also, I don't know how realistic "near real time" is, if you
consider the problem of a parent operator having to poll
5,000,000 children for changes. "Some time today" would satisfy
the need I see.
... which is why I agreed with the others that raised the idea of a
special packet for the child to send to the parent to signal the
need to scrape.
I think that's a non-starter.
Why?
Doug
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