Oops. Mailer problems and obviously  misdirected... (intended to be sent to 
someone with whom I worked on the name collision stuff :))

Sincere apologies.

Regards,
-drc

On Jul 28, 2014, at 3:34 PM, Casey Deccio <[email protected]> wrote:
> I have to admit I have struggled to not respond to Casey (who works for VRSN) 
> with:
> 
> "Well, there wasn't much empirical evidence that name collisions could cause 
> problems, yet..."
> 
> :)
> 
> Regards,
> -drc
> 
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 10:05 AM, David Conrad <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Jul 28, 2014, at 5:48 AM, Nicholas Weaver <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> > The IPv6 net has decreed “No, really, FRAGMENTS DO NOT WORK”.
> 
> This could be a bit of an issue when the DNSSEC root key is rolled. Could 
> someone point me to a writeup and/or data as to how we know the above decree? 
> (I'm not disagreeing, I just haven't really been following this for a while).
> 
> 
> As one data point, the current top DNSKEY response sizes for TLDs (all using 
> UDP) are:
> 
> xn--fiq228c5hs. 1669
> xn--6frz82g. 1657
> xn--3ds443g. 1657
> rich. 1629
> post. 1629
> pink. 1629
> info. 1629
> blue. 1629
> asia. 1629
> red. 1625
> org. 1625
> onl. 1625
> kim. 1625
> sc. 1621
> pr. 1621
> mn. 1621
> me. 1621
> lc. 1621
> in. 1621
> gi. 1621
> bz. 1621
> ag. 1621
> bg. 1567
> xn--fiqz9s. 1505
> xn--fiqs8s. 1505
> am. 1479
> cn. 1473
> dk. 1459
> 
> All of the above result in IPv6 fragmentation, and nearly all also result in 
> IPv4 fragmentation---both assuming a 1500-byte PMTU and a resolver using an 
> EDNS UDP payload value sufficient to hold the entire payload.  This list has 
> changed over time, through key rollovers and such.
> 
> Has there been empirical or anecdotal evidence to suggest that DNSSEC 
> validation has been broken for these TLDs for some population?
> 
> I'm not suggesting that fragmentation is pretty, and I'm quite aware of path 
> problems with fragmentation (some of them having been worked around by 
> resolver implementations and configurations, as Tony indicated).
> 
> Casey

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