On 26. 11. 19 19:15, Paul Hoffman wrote:
> On Nov 26, 2019, at 9:39 AM, Matthew Pounsett <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> For those who read the draft, ypu'll see that "trying to take back part of 
>>> it" is not there. The same was made clear in the presentation to the WG. 
>>> "If you want a private name, here's one to consider; ones like it are 
>>> already being used as private names in dozens of other contexts" is far 
>>> from "taking" anything.
>>
>> It's still the IETF stating that it's safe to use for that purpose, which is 
>> no longer the purview of the IETF having delegated that responsibility to 
>> ISO3166.  That is taking back authority over that name.  
> 
> The term "safe" doesn't appear in draft-arends-private-use-tld. If you have 
> words you would prefer there to make it clearer that what is being proposed 
> is just "If you want a private name, here's one to consider; ones like it are 
> already being used as private names in dozens of other contexts", I bet Roy 
> would consider adding it.
> 
> Bigger picture: this WG often gets tied between "we want to be the place 
> recommending best practices for private naming" and "we disagree what 
> settings to put on these three knobs when we are talking about private 
> naming". I would like to think that it is not impossible for this to be 
> resolved, because there is no better set of experienced people to deal with 
> the thorny issue of private naming.


I can see two overlaping problems:

1. (missing) Recommendation for running local-only DNS subtrees (like BIND 
views etc.).
This *also* applies to unique subdomains like "example.office.nic.cz" which 
cannot be queried from the Internet.
The only attempt I remember is 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-krishnaswamy-dnsop-dnssec-split-view/ .


2. Advice how (not) to select a non-unique domain name + explanation of 
consequences for both options.

I guess that uniqueness or non-uniqueness of the name will affect first 
document so much that it is pointless to give advice for (2) without tackling 
(1) first.

My two halers.

-- 
Petr Špaček  @  CZ.NIC

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