On 8/1/22 15:58, Ben Schwartz wrote:


On Mon, Aug 1, 2022 at 8:32 AM Independent Submissions Editor (Eliot Lear) <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
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    I do agree with Martin that it would be helpful to have some
    registration of names so that conflicts between name spaces can be
    avoided.

I think we already have such a mechanism: ICANN.  People who want unique registrations can acquire them via the existing ICANN and registry processes.

Note: .myfancymechanism is not currently registerable, and the likelyhood is that it will take a few more years before it is. So new TLDs aren't a *current* solution to anything.

However, myfancymechanism.info (or whatever existing, operational TLD you prefer) is probably registerable, gives an unique prefix that is guaranteed to conflict with zero names in the DNS, and can be implemented without asking anyone.

The monetary cost of myfancymechanism.info above myfancymechanism.alt is on the order of 10 dollars; the 10 dollars also gives you guarantees about nobody else registering the same name in that space.

If "invoke the ICANN mechanisms" is an answer, then you're talking about second level domains - cheap, available, and with no conflicts.
But they're not "special".


I do not think that the IETF should introduce another mechanism for third parties to acquire non-conflicting domain names.  Any such mechanism would appear to compete with ICANN and the registries, without the benefit of ICANN's extensive, hard-won process and governance.

    This would also encourage formal documentation of those projects.

This raises the interesting question of when use of non-ICANN registration is appropriate.  I think RFC 6761 has the right answer: "Standards Action or IESG Approval".  In other words, the IETF should only be taking control of DNS namespaces that correspond to IETF standards-track protocols, with an escape hatch via the IESG for special situations.

Projects that need a non-ICANN domain name can seek IETF standardization, which represents both formal documentation and consensus that this use constitutes "part of the internet itself".

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