Hi,

There haven't been as many replies as I'd have hoped for, but I think 
there is slight preference towards rewording to not say much of 
anything about DNAME, along the lines of:

        <t>In particular one should note that the use of A6 records in
the forward tree or Bitlabels in the reverse tree is not recommended
<xref target="RFC3363"/>.  Using DNAME records is not recommended in
the reverse tree in conjunction with A6 records; the document did not
mean to take a stance on any other use of DNAME records <xref 
target="RFC3364"/>.</t>

Or do we have proposals for different kind of wording?  If so, please
send it ASAP.

I think this captures what Rob Austein clarified (as author RFC3354).

On Wed, 7 Apr 2004, Pekka Savola wrote:
> I'm particularly interested in hearing what kind of opinions the WG 
> has on this particular problem..
> 
> On Wed, 7 Apr 2004, Mark Andrews wrote:
> > > Substantial (or not-so-editorial) comments:
> > > 
> > > 1. Section 1.1 (1.1 Representing IPv6 Addresses in DNS Records)
> > > 
> > >    In particular one should note that the use of A6 records, DNAME
> > >    records in the reverse tree, or Bitlabels in the reverse tree is not
> > >    recommended [2].
> > > 
> > > I think this is an overstatement about DNAME.  The text looks meaning
> > > DNAME is not recommended *in any way* in the IPv6 reverse tree.  For
> > > example, people would read this to mean it is discouraged to use DNAME
> > > to manage both ip6.arpa and ip6.int zones as described in
> > > http://www.isc.org/pubs/tn/isc-tn-2002-1.html
> 
> Yes.
>  
> > > But, in my understanding, the sense of the discussion in RFC3363 ([2])
> > > is that DNAME in the reverse tree is deprecated for the reverse side
> > > of the A6 usage.  That is, the usage for constructing multi-level,
> > > hierarchal reverse trees, particularly with bitstring labels.
> 
> Chaining was indeed one important argument in the discussions.  I do 
> not remember them in detail to be able to comment whether it was 
> intentional to deprecate DNAME for all reverse usage or just with A6.  
> IMHO, the document language:
> 
> 4.  DNAME in IPv6 Reverse Tree
> 
>    The issues for DNAME in the reverse mapping tree appears to be
>    closely tied to the need to use fragmented A6 in the main tree: if
>    one is necessary, so is the other, and if one isn't necessary, the
>    other isn't either.  
> 
> [split by me]
>                       Therefore, in moving RFC 2874 to experimental,
>    the intent of this document is that use of DNAME RRs in the reverse
>    tree be deprecated.
> 
> The first part *seems* indicate that at least when writing the 
> document, there was no justified use for DNAME in the reverse tree.
> 
> However, this still does leave it open what's the case about
> non-fragmented, non-A6 reverses (the scenario which Jinmei said).
> 
> And to that my feeling was that the implementation expense etc. of
> DNAME is not really worth it in the non-fragmented scenario, and that
> it might re-open problems we saw in A6 wrt. chaining.
> 
> >     We should just reissue RFC3363 with *all* references to DNAME
> >     removed.  It continually causes problems.
> [...]
> 
> First, I think there should be consensus that DNAME is a good thing, 
> and it's OK to use it everywhere. :)
> 
> 

-- 
Pekka Savola                 "You each name yourselves king, yet the
Netcore Oy                    kingdom bleeds."
Systems. Networks. Security. -- George R.R. Martin: A Clash of Kings


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