On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 09:41:23PM +0530, Mukund Sivaraman wrote: > There is a grace period. It was put there so that domain owners are able > to correct a mistake.
I was working for a registry when it was added, and that's not the reasoning I recall. The problem to be solved was that registrants were surprised when their names disappeared at the end of the auto-renew grace period and when they hadn't paid their bills. Under the old rules, when that happened, usually a "domainer" ended up in control of the expired name, and this meant that people who failed to pay their bills lost their names completely. That seemed bad. Yet grace periods had already piled up (the auto-renew grace period is already 45 days long), so people didn't want to encourage even more dependence on grace periods. So, the redemption grace period acts _like_ the name has been deleted and recovered by someone else, except that the registrant has a right to pay extra and get the name back. That's what it's intended to do, and therefore there's nothing wrong with registrars doing all manner of things with the name under those circumstances. You don't pay your bill, this is what happens. > In the bit of time that the registrar gets access before it's renewed, > the website loses its reputation with nefarious ad serving. Yes Yes, exactly. "Pay your bills." > that. Enough money is already charged for domain registration that such > quick switching tactics are unnecessary. The margins in the registration business are in fact terribly thin. I am not surprised that some registrars want to create additional revenue opportunities. > We can argue this :) , but you surely understand the difference between > providing a clean 30 day grace period and what is happening now. You already _have_ a clean period, which is the 45 days _prior to_ your expiration. There are lots of ICANN-mandated notices in that period, and anyway it seems to me that you need to know about when your names expire and pay for them on time. I don't think this is anyone else's responsibility but the registrant's, and I think calling "nefarious" anything someone does with a name after you've failed to pay for it and it has expired is putting the responsibility on the wrong party. A -- Andrew Sullivan [email protected]
