Hi!
On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 05:26:12PM +0800, Stas Bekman wrote:
We have discussed this issue before. My opinion is that we don't want any official mirrors. The reason: Search the web for the mod_perl guide. You will find dozens of "mirrors" which are very very outdated and include erroneous information. Making official mirrors, meaning that you have to monitor those mirrors and make sure that they get updated.
There are also technical problems with mirrors, e.g. the search won't work, certain hidden objects aren't linked (e.g. 404.html), etc.
see below.
And I'm not aware of a bandwidth problem at apache.org. The only drawback of not having the mirrors is a slower usage experience for those behind slow links.
..and causing traffic over half of the world. But maybe that's a good thing, or else even more backbone operators will go bankrupt (KPNQuest...) :-)
I prefer people reading correct info slower, than outdated/incorrect info faster. Those who want and can figure out how to build the local copy can do that, but if they forget to update it for 12 months in a row, we don't want other users to suffer from that.
If we do maintain a list of mirrors and add a warning so users verify that they read the latest copy (how?) they will still go back to the master site. The guide used to have a release every so often, so it was easy to update, the new model supports release often approach, so it really has to be a mirror that monitors changes very often.
I thought that the current site is very well suited for mirroring, as the building can be totally automated (as it is on perl.apache.org):
% cvs update % bin/build
If SWISH is installed on the mirror, searching should be possible to...
I wasn't thinking of a simple mirror of the HTML tree (dst_html) ...
that's even worse because then the normal concept of mirroring doesn't apply anymore. And you have to baby-sit those who cannot setup the local build. But see below.
So I say that for the moment if you want to have a mirror, go for it, but for now there is only one source of docs people should know about and that's perl.apache.org. After we release the site, if there will be people whom we can trust that they will keep their mirrors in sync we may do something about it.
OK. My main concern was that I use the docs locally (faster), but the search won't work. So I thought I just get the search running on my box, and than, that maybe other people would like to use my local copy, and so on ...
As I mentioned above, feel free to setup any mirrors you like, but I'm really not sure if it's a good idea to make those officially. Unless somebody volunteers to maintain the list, monitor that the mirrors are up to date, etc. If such a person stands up it's a whole different story. My idea of the new site was that once we finish it, there will be very little overhead maintaining it. And monitoring mirrors is definitely an overhead and responsibility.
OK, I could use grep for finding stuff, but now that we have such a wonderfull search engine (Thanks, Bill!), it just seems awkward ..
Yeah, Bill rules!
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