It's pretty after midnight local time here, so a last answer for today... On Friday, 24. June 2011 01:00:38 Gary Schnabl wrote: > On 6/23/2011 5:16 PM, Nino Novak wrote:
> > ... [Offering enhanced PDF Manuals] > > > So finally, why don't you "just do it" yourself? > > Duh! I did that--while I was making my lunch today: downloaded the > Writer UG PDF from the LO site, enabled it with Acrobat, and test ran > it with Adobe Reader. Time spent: Less than ten minutes, including > time for posting emails, cooking, eating, a phone call, etc. No, I meant, why don't you offer the service yourself? You did one conversion, ok - but for the service you need to - explore legal issues - set up a work flow - "market" the enhanced version - offer them on a appropriate website - ensure at least as well es possible that the service will be continued when you are ill, unwilling or whatever ... (might be I'm overseeing parts, so pls bare with me) So, there's much more work to do than to just prototypically show that it's possible. > My point is some LO personnel should put aside any biases with regard > to restrictive tendencies to avoid using proprietary software and > the like. I realize that open-source exclusivity is nearly akin to > be like a religion, for a few... But a major goal of Free + Open Source Software is to give people more personal freedom. So why do you think they "should put aside biases" - if they just "use" their freedom they are offered by FLOSS philosphy. Here, they are allowed to use whatever tool they want, so - let them enjoy doing so. You might be right that indeed some people behave kind of rather fundamentalistic. But - that's their choice. If you want them to behave differently the only thing is to argue and "sell" them your ideas. And indeed, that's what you are doing, so if nobody bites into the lure, it might be the wrong moment, not enough persuasing arguments, the wrong people, or I don't know what else. Try again later? Choose a different audience? Do it yourself? (I mean the whole thing, not just showing that it works in principle) > Late in my work career, I spent a few years teaching at both public > and private K-12 schools in metro Detroit. Many of the brighter, > college-oriented kids would, on their own, employ their magic > markers for highlighting items in their books or other printed > documents, much the same that we did decades earlier--both at school > and afterward. Highlighting is actually very common; otherwise firms > would not sell billions of Sharpies and the like. Ok, so your experience predestinates you to speak in favor of offering enhanced PDF, but still you have to persuade people here to follow your argumentation. > But now, PDF editing/reviewing functionality can be effortlessly > imparted to any and all PDFs, once enabled by a simple, one-time > conversion by Acrobat for use for anybody with the ubiquitous Adobe > Reader afterward. Yes, I see the point that it might be an - let's say - interesting possibility. But speaking fo myself personnaly, I'm contributing to this project here just because I enjoy doing things I love and decide myself to do. So I might have catched up with your idea and helping you to propagate it. But alas, I haven't. For whatever reason - I just haven't. It's not attractive enough for me to put energy into it. Not even a small amount (as testing the enhanced PDF). This is absolutely not meant to offend you or to discredit your opinion or intention - in no way. But it is just not attractive enough for me to catch fire. At least not at the moment. And, obviously it did not attract many other people either. Now (if you did not receive tens of private mails speaking in favor of your idea) I'd say, well - did not work this time, with this audience, with these arguments - so let's try later. Or a slightly different idea. Or with new arguments. Or what else. But it's up to you, how you decide. That's freedom :-) Nino definitely falling asleep in a few moments ;-) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to [email protected] Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
