Hi :)
Ok, the human-readable explanation claims that individuals within an external 
organisation would have to each sign their own individual CLA's with ASF.  
However the legalese in the contract doesn't seem to insist on that at all
http://www.apache.org/licenses/cla-corporate.txt

 1. Definitions.

      "You" (or "Your") shall mean the copyright owner or legal entity
      authorized by the copyright owner that is making this Agreement
      with the Foundation. For legal entities, the entity making a
      Contribution and all other entities that control, are controlled by,
      or are under common control with that entity are considered to be a
      single Contributor. 

In our case the copyright holder is TDF.  Well at the moment not TDF but the 
German community (or is it French?) that is the legally registered organisation 
that is looking after TDF assets until TDF is fully registered.

I don't have a specialism in copyright or contracts or anything and don't have 
any qualifications in law for even a single country so i am aware there are a 
lot of implications and things that i am completely unaware of.  Also i know 
Alex does have some expertise in exactly the right area although he is not 
officially employed as an expert and is only giving us the benefit of his 
opinion for us to weigh-up.

Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Sat, 26/11/11, Alexander Thurgood <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Alexander Thurgood <[email protected]>
Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Licensing for NEW documents
To: [email protected]
Date: Saturday, 26 November, 2011, 14:16

Le 25/11/11 20:01, Jean Weber a écrit :

Hi Jean,

> The existing user guides are licensed the same as the OOo guides they were 
> derived from, and the templates include this licensing information on the 
> Copyright page (GPL and CC-BY dual license).
> 
> NEW documents, however, could be licensed differently. I propose that new 
> docs be dual licensed CC-BY-SA (preferred by LibreOffice) and Apache (so our 
> work can be reused by Apache OpenOffice and other products).

The AL2 would require all documentation contributors to sign a
contributor license agreement :

http://www.apache.org/licenses/

Contributor License Agreements

The ASF desires that all contributors of ideas, code, or documentation
to the Apache projects complete, sign, and submit (via postal mail, fax
or email) an Individual Contributor License Agreement (CLA) [ PDF form
]. The purpose of this agreement is to clearly define the terms under
which intellectual property has been contributed to the ASF and thereby
allow us to defend the project should there be a legal dispute regarding
the software at some future time. A signed CLA is required to be on file
before an individual is given commit rights to an ASF project.


There are more than subtle differences between the AL2 and CC-BY-SA.
Whilst I may not be fully satisfied with the CC-BY-SA license, it
appeals to me far more than AL2.


Personally, I have no such intention of signing an agreement of the AL2
type, or anything like it again (if I can possibly avoid it), I'm afraid
it reminds me too much of the jumps and hoops you had to go through with
Sun.


So, -1 for me, I'm afraid.


Alex




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