I don't believe TDF is the copyright owner of the documentation Jean is referring to.
They are not works produced for hire (an important case rather specific to US Copyright Law) and without an explicit transfer of copyright to the TDF, the TDF has at most the license that is offered on the works by their authors. I am confident that an organization that avoids collecting CLAs of any flavor and accepts licenses to code via e-mail declarations is not getting any copyrights from anyone [;<). - Dennis -----Original Message----- From: Tom Davies [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 06:50 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Licensing for NEW documents Hi :) Ok, the human-readable explanation claims that individuals within an external organisation would have to each sign their own individual CLA's with ASF. However the legalese in the contract doesn't seem to insist on that at all http://www.apache.org/licenses/cla-corporate.txt 1. Definitions. "You" (or "Your") shall mean the copyright owner or legal entity authorized by the copyright owner that is making this Agreement with the Foundation. For legal entities, the entity making a Contribution and all other entities that control, are controlled by, or are under common control with that entity are considered to be a single Contributor. In our case the copyright holder is TDF. Well at the moment not TDF but the German community (or is it French?) that is the legally registered organisation that is looking after TDF assets until TDF is fully registered. I don't have a specialism in copyright or contracts or anything and don't have any qualifications in law for even a single country so i am aware there are a lot of implications and things that i am completely unaware of. Also i know Alex does have some expertise in exactly the right area although he is not officially employed as an expert and is only giving us the benefit of his opinion for us to weigh-up. Regards from Tom :) --- On Sat, 26/11/11, Alexander Thurgood <[email protected]> wrote: From: Alexander Thurgood <[email protected]> Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Licensing for NEW documents To: [email protected] Date: Saturday, 26 November, 2011, 14:16 Le 25/11/11 20:01, Jean Weber a écrit : Hi Jean, > The existing user guides are licensed the same as the OOo guides they were > derived from, and the templates include this licensing information on the > Copyright page (GPL and CC-BY dual license). > > NEW documents, however, could be licensed differently. I propose that new > docs be dual licensed CC-BY-SA (preferred by LibreOffice) and Apache (so our > work can be reused by Apache OpenOffice and other products). The AL2 would require all documentation contributors to sign a contributor license agreement : http://www.apache.org/licenses/ Contributor License Agreements The ASF desires that all contributors of ideas, code, or documentation to the Apache projects complete, sign, and submit (via postal mail, fax or email) an Individual Contributor License Agreement (CLA) [ PDF form ]. The purpose of this agreement is to clearly define the terms under which intellectual property has been contributed to the ASF and thereby allow us to defend the project should there be a legal dispute regarding the software at some future time. A signed CLA is required to be on file before an individual is given commit rights to an ASF project. There are more than subtle differences between the AL2 and CC-BY-SA. Whilst I may not be fully satisfied with the CC-BY-SA license, it appeals to me far more than AL2. Personally, I have no such intention of signing an agreement of the AL2 type, or anything like it again (if I can possibly avoid it), I'm afraid it reminds me too much of the jumps and hoops you had to go through with Sun. So, -1 for me, I'm afraid. Alex -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to [email protected] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to [email protected] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to [email protected] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
